EVE General Discussion

you run incursions with concord protection and make 100m+/hr

you wouldn't be flying ships that would take a hundred hours of incursions to recover the cost IF THE RISK OF LOSING THEM WAS THAT GREAT

hint: it's not

"Hey guys I know we're fighting a war with a highly competent enemy and all but let's go run that incursion in our space!!!!"

One ship pop a month/month and a half of playtime? That's about the same rate of ship loss per pilot as the alliance I was in (on the goon side) was taking during the the BoB/Kenny war. If we get lucky TiDi might up that number substantially, but the average line pilot in 0.0 is not loosing a bunch of ships (dictor and bad inty pilots are another story).

I lose anything between 2-10 maelstroms every month, depending on how many fights we have, and how competent the enemy is. That's not a risk, that's a certainty.

Tee Hee

So, you're basically saying that CCP should go ahead and interfere with their sandbox? and you were saying that people shouldn't interfere with the way you play even though you are exploiting the mechanics of the game? and CSM are listening to the community, incursions need fixing and CCP is being slow at it. Youare not the community.

This is a sandbox, get used to it.

HI!
is this the thread where I can complain about someone not agreeing with the rest of EVE-bears for not completing incursions for pure meta-gaming reasons ?

I see nothing there from CCP and I cannot see anything about 60bil/week. it is in no way official as you claim.

The 621 billion a week figure is "questionable math by community leaders " and this figure could easily be an order of magnitude too low. The 3000 billion a week calculation I did is probably half of what it actually is. 6000 billion a week is the equivalent of injecting the isk from 500,000 hours of level four missions every week.

If we extrapolate based on stats we do know, then all the mission runners in EVE at most inject 450 billion created ISK a day (this is complex but 383,000,000 x 1000 isk plus some mission rewards at about 10%, some LP items have no isk sink value so I rounded up for simplicity). We can also estimate that all the mission runners in EVE earn close to 2250 billion ISK between them a day while incursion runners earn 400 billion to 800 billion a day.

I freely admit much of this is contestable and CCP Diagoras will be able to give us perfect numbers, but this will have to do until we get these perfect numbers.

I say incursions inject at least as much and possibly double the ISK that all mission runners do.



I do not know if this number includes incursion runners or FW runners but works out at an average of 383 million loyalty points a day. A week would have been better as I assume weekends earn more.

Keep trolling noobs

Keep ******* up empire and you'll see the consequences

Less new players
Less new recruits
Drop off in 0.0 PvP because older players quit and new players quit
Industry i.e market prices hike because corps shut down who have industrial divisions
Incursions become useless making anotehr aspect of eve that brings in new players gone
Alliances start to die from lack of recruitment and new blood
0.0 regions become deadzones because of lack of players (see points above)

Are you getting the picture yet? Or shall i keep painting?

And as for the CSM, what a joke, they have never been useful, not now, not back then, not ever, human nature is to be selfish.

Unfortunatley people say *its my ingame personality*, no, psychology has proved that it would be the way you are in rl if it was accepted.

Bottom line is, the majority of EvE Players are players banned from other mmos for the same kinda behaviour and the so called *elite pvp corps* in Empire and *griefer corps* are slowly killing the game. I have seen so many corps die because they are 4 days old and get war decced by a random corp for no reason, the new players quit and go back on there xboxes.

CCP needs to fix empire, it should be 100mil to war dec corps a week driving the need for merc corps down forcing so called *mercs* into null sec alliances which would improve 0.0 pvp. Griefer corps would drop off because the isk would become an issue.

There are several fixes that ccp need to implement but they wont. Also mate id delete your post, all your gonan get is a bunch of nobodys trolling you saying *moar tears* and *go cry some more*. Mostly because they are nerdy, overweight socially rejected children who still live with there mummies and daddies because theya re scared of the real world and subsequently live on eve online which in effect becomes there life.

Just keep screwing empire, because u wont force players into null sec, ull force them to quit and eve will die altogether. You narrow sight means u cannot see the long term reprecussions of your own griefing and stupidity.

Hof Out

Oh and I wanted the #500 post as well...