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Super/Carrier Nerf - How about this instead?
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Kassimila
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2017-06-13 00:56:47 UTC
So obviously the current isk faucet that is capital ratting is an issue. However Carrier and Super PVP seems fine, so I don't feel that nerfing the damage is appropriate. Instead here is how you fix the ratting issue.

- Networked Sensor Array - No longer affects lock time on NPCs.

Should be a significant reduction in clear time.
oiukhp Muvila
Doomheim
#2 - 2017-06-13 08:44:42 UTC
I'm glad I sold all my carrier related SP and went strictly dread.

As far as the OP,
there is a difference between making them not so good at killing NPCs and making them effectively useless.

I've never ratted in a capital but it seems to be all the rage these days and some may cry about this change more than what is planned.
Beast of Revelations
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2017-06-13 18:45:10 UTC
There are a million right ways to fix this - they aren't interested. They think nerfing a ship in PvP is the way to fix the economy LOL.

- Ban carriers from going in - that would fix it.

- Enhance the efficiency the rats target and hit fighters - that would fix it.

- Put a triage back on to the carrier so it has to sit still for a couple minutes after entering - that would fix it.
oiukhp Muvila
Doomheim
#4 - 2017-06-14 00:47:57 UTC
And CCP probably doesn't want to eliminate ratting in capitals and supers because some plex them up front and makes the balance back rattin to pay for game time. They just have to pay the up front cost at first and then play for free.

Big up-front payday for CCP.

Probably why so many are upset.

Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#5 - 2017-06-14 01:12:48 UTC
Just make null more dangerous. Severely nerf local chat so you are more hesitant to undock in a cap without a support fleet. You have your PvP still, but the solo carrier ratters can't be certain they are in a system without a grey/red, so they will use a cheaper ship instead.

The problem is how safe null is to live in, not supers/carriers
Kassimila
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2017-06-14 03:54:34 UTC
oiukhp Muvila wrote:
And CCP probably doesn't want to eliminate ratting in capitals and supers because some plex them up front and makes the balance back rattin to pay for game time. They just have to pay the up front cost at first and then play for free.

Big up-front payday for CCP.

Probably why so many are upset.



While yes, these guys probably do plex their accounts, no they are makin WAY too much isk. Like stupid stupid amounts. You can see it in the may economics report.