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This is a very important point made:

Citadels right now are about the worst venture in the game: The vulnerabilities are easy to exploit, and if any given corp or alliance wants you gone, and you're a small guy, you're gone. It leaves these from a beneficial perspective to the elite. For some joe whom wants a little ranch with a few hands to mineral farm and hunt rats all day... You just better hope you don't get noticed. Please make some sort of exception to the fighters as part of citadels, or make a change to buff them in another way to compensate for this. In the current state of things, I will not build an Astrahus until I am almost certain I will not loose my shirt.

Other than that, there are big big players whom are farming many lucrative features of the game on a scale that's absurd. The result? These features aren't readily available for everyone else, so the rich get richer... the rest get bored and find a different game to play... These changes are good, and very desperately needed. Good job for having the guts to do it, I know there will be many that are going to be upset for a short bit.

Right as the changes were announced I went at a criminal whom targeted me. I went to dock but his buddy in a marauder or something uncloaked and held point on me and bumped me off dock. He was repping the Apocalypse real well, my Barghest died a slow, painful death (it took a good 6 minutes). When it was done I laughed, and told the guys thanks for the fight. They were very mad I didn't pay (yes it was a blackmail setup). I said never and laughed out loud. They were foaming from the mouth angry that I was not shedding tears over my ship...Then I took my lil pod inside the market hub, pulled up the contracts... then i cried! Overnight the price nearly doubled from a rigged and fitted ship to a blueprint for twice as much. But as a brand spanking new player, with no experience, nor knowledge about this game, no rapport with any players, I was able to fly any of these pirate battleships that could alpha many veterans, or whole ganks for that matter.... and with 1 day training needed.... This is a good thing, putting these out of the hands they shouldn't be in (like mine ;) )

almost 1700 replies here and not a single word from ccp.....you can do what you want is your game, and you can keep you big and empty space for yourself if things keep that route....i'm not even mad about the nerf anymore the lack of communication on such stuff rushed in on friday is even worst imho
either argoument the nerf with more data and tell us to shut up and why it's needed or come up with a better solution but you can't just simply ignore us (even if looks like we are 1% of 1% of 1%...) and hope we will keep to pay....

You can also freely buy characters, Ships and anything else we can't by exchanging RL money with another player.

This has NOTHING to do with TQ, it is down to Chinese EULA being modified to suit Chinese regulations. (Techos, stop trying to defend CCP with bullshite excuses)


CCP's idea of game "balance" is to make it so the richest largest groups will ALWAYS win the day.

4 nerfs to owning a pirate battleship in ONE release - If that isn't "balance" biased toward the rich, what is?

Carriers nerfed into the ground for both PVP and PVE when part of the reason isk income has gone up is due to a coming release advertised by CCP that fundamentally changes the way alliances fight (moon mining and bottom up income)

CCP caused the problem and are blaming and punishing players for their poor game design.

rip eve been playin a year seen plex go up by a 3rd in isk value, end game stuff nerfed to hell, but lots of skins to buy
and only 2 public events. trained a carrier for 8 months to fly well
2 days after nerf to fighter signature which is expensive when loosing t2s, so i spend nearly 2 months gettin fighters 5 and another 65 on carrier 5 now a 30 percent cut to damage as i finish carrier 5 to get some damage its useless. also training rorqual no point now.

if you want people to leave just ask nicely dont kick em in the back on the way out ccp

Good news is the ratting ships and **** will be VNi's .. which I'm pretty sure you can use in an alpha clone. So we can still grind away albet slower. and watch as these jerks drown #notmysubscription

Not sure if anyone already suggested this, but if all players stop doing PvP and focus on PvE for one week only, CCP may actually realize that this is not a Problem of overpowering ships. This is because a large player group is focusing efforts to into a certain direction. With pure numbers you can outsmart any of those "brilliant" nerfs that again only really hit the small Teams that can't fuekd those numbers.... CCP you better think first next time!!

i pointed out the possibility earlier today that eve was basically on perma war for a period of time and yet still bounty income was rising steadily and that the recent blue donut after the moon mining was introduced and all the people pulling out from the front lines may have contributed to this sudden increase as there is nothing for people to do other than preparing for the next war which naturally means stockpiling assets and got smacked and said it has never happened before so it will not happen again

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i have not been in eve long enough to know the effects of another other example of a peaceful age but the political climate right now seems to point in that possibility

Doesn't matter what we all write I doubt ccp would read change direction. Probably a good time to put account into hiatus again.

A cold war caused by a TERRIBLE sov mechanics has a tendency to also cause an increase in the amount of money generation. Maybe you should try to find the problem and not do what CCP is doing by putting bandaids on a symptom...

You're also naive if you don't think people will just move back to "printing ISK" in semi-AFK drone boats instead of carriers. Carriers were never the most efficient ISK per effort in the game, but it allowed people to play on one account and make the same amount of ISK per hour as running 3-4 accounts using VNIs. Carriers were a click fest, but they were perfect for the person who maybe can't play 20 hours a day or run multiple accounts. The only thing CCP will do with this patch is nerf carrier's PVP ability and forced the customer base to adapt to multi-boxing 3-4 accounts using semi-afk drone boats instead...

It's not just wormholers. I'm a null sec guy through and through, and ratting is my main thing and has been for the 9 + years I've been playing in null. And I think it's pretty insignificant too, of course I never let myself get sucked into carrier ratting because anyone with eyes who has watched CCP over the years knew that it would get nerfed hard eventually.