Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And notice that no one does that. It's impractical. They are mixed in with L4s which are easy soloable and you split rewards with groups. It's a huge pain to find a fleet for content that's soloable unless it's something your (active) corp regularly does.

Group content is stuff that is too hard to solo, encourages group play with the rewards, and does not require lottery to get the entry (ie doing regular L4s to get a burner to share).

I think it would only be natural that you should split the reward between a group. When null-sec ratting, you split the bounties. When wormhole ratting, you split the loots. It's ok to have incursion which gives the same rewards to everyone however many people participates as long as it's less than a certain amount (so that I can sandbag :P), but that's enough. If you really have a group ready for this and you dont want to waste your buddy's time on normal lv4 missions, just skip them all. As for why people dont group up for this, I guess that's because elite pveers prefer solo while those average ones have no balls to team up and challenge these or they just enjoy using their overwhelming power to crush those weak npcs.

Yeah, because alts are a thing. I definitely dont want to see somebody with 5 Tengus run a lv4 blockade within 5 minutes and get like 75mil isk and 50k LP totally, or somebody having 10 accounts get 750k total LP within less than half an hour by camping a large complex. And completion time does scale with number if one player can hardly break the logi.

You can already do this with scout incursion sites. Vanguards too but there is just less room for error. Incursion rewards scale really well with groups unlike missions. Mission rewards don't scale well for groups because travel times take up a decent chunk of time and that doesn't scale, which counterracts the efficiencies gained by having multiple people.

As much as I would love more casual group PVE, because it teaches people fleet mechanics and finding fights is much easier, I don't see it happening. If it's not dificult enough (incursions), it'll be multiboxed too easily and LP will be devalued too much as a result.

A burner pays out ~30m and doing it with say 5 people means each gets 6m. most burner missions are short solo, bringing more people will speed up the combat time, but so what you spend most of your time in warp anyways. If you can get everyone to take a mission and run them all that might be interesting, however most of the time only a few will have access, and who knows where they end up. you might end up doing 6 jumps one way, 6 back, and then 6 to the next one. travel time is the main limit there. Even with standard missions travel time becomes a huge factor with multiple pilots. Adding overwhelming dps only speeds it up so much. you are typically better off just doing everything solo.

and like you say it is pretty obvious why you can't get multiple rewards for one mission or FW plex.


With signal cartel I went on some vulfpeck fleets where you take destroyers and logi into a wolf-rayet system where small guns and armor tanks get huge bonuses and start wrecking sleepers. I'd like more stuff like that, the biggest drawback to that is once you run the sites in the WH well you're done till they respawn. I want something I can constantly form up on, get some income, and maybe some pvp.

Hi there, I am moving this post to features and ideas.

Sorry this is a bit off topic. Sometimes I wonder why EVE gameplay has gone towards two extremes. Contents are focused on either big alliance organization or solo player. If a player do not join an alliance, he has not much choice but solo the game. The wardec mechanic actually discouraged players to form new small organization that could one day be grown into a threat to established powers. It may not be the intention of the game, but EVE players like to use every possible means to suppress potential competitors. This phenomenon broke up many small corporations and left the game with either big established power or solo player. If a player don't want to join an alliance, he has to settle for solo play.

MMO players naturally like to play in groups, otherwise, they could play many single player games that are available in the market. There are actually many different size of groups exist between the two extremes. I think the game could be made more inclusive for small size groups that are less formal and more personal. The game company could cater more for the needs of small social groups such as a band of friends, small corporation and medium corporation. They might want to review the wardec mechanic and provide contents targeted to these smaller size of groups. The game company could have more freedom on game design if they can create an segment to let small size corporations to have fun and allow them to prosper. Jump fatigue, structure timer and entosis may not be necessary if the game company could carefully segment the game environment for different size of organizations.

Currently missions are static .. known.

This is a thread that basically says .. Hey CCP, predictability makes missions too easy, remove the predictability ...



ergo .. make them (potentially) less easy ... sounds htfu'd to me.