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Anchored collidable objects to decloak ship

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Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#1 - 2017-06-10 17:57:16 UTC
Hi CCP,

It had been passed down the grape vine that the use of multitiudes of objects to act as a decloaking screen was considered an exploit. However, this is often used and quite necessary considering that brining collidables into proximity is the only means we have for detecting cloaked ships. As per current game mechanics.

So my questions are:

1. Are only certain types of collidables considered an exploit, or is it all object types?
2. How many objects can be deployed before it is considered an exploit?
3. How do we go about reporting things which might be considered exploits?

Not questioning the rules in this matter, though, some clarity would be appreciated.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2017-06-10 18:14:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
This is an OLD discussion.


It really comes down to this:

- Dropping stuff to decloak people is allowed... up to a point

- The general consensus is that there is no problem until you MIGHT cause lag with the sheer amount of stuff on grid

- The rules have NEVER been clear or precise on purpose because what causes or does not cause lag varies from situation to situation depending on general server health and population


In a nutshell; use your best judgement / common sense.
For example: 10-20 or so objects may be okay... 60 would most likely be a "problem"


edit:
Let me put it another way...

Imagine yourself as a GM. Your job is to ensure a stable server and prevent player abuse without infringing [too much] on emergent gameplay.
You get a petition from a player that a group is spamming cans all over a gate. You know that enough debris over a concentrated area will cause lag for some people... but you also know that can spam is a perfectly legitimate form of gameplay.

Which would you be more inclined to ignore/write-off;
- The group launching only 10 or 20 cans and isn't making more unless the old ones disappear?
or
- The group that has made 60 cans and seems to be making more as time goes on?
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#3 - 2017-06-10 18:25:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Linus Gorp
Came expecting an afk cloaker whine thread. Left disappointed.

Shah gave you as good an answer as you'll get. If you want an official one, submit a support ticket.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Lothros Andastar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2017-06-10 18:43:00 UTC
As far as I know as long as it's only 1 jetcan per person it's not considered abuse.
ISD Stall
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#5 - 2017-06-10 19:46:43 UTC
Hi there, Please file a support ticket to ask for clarification from one of the Game Masters.

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