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lol...im not upset. It's a proposal for the people. The hardcore will hate it...the vets will hate it. Hell...I hate it...but the new peeps will probably like it.

Because...I may not like it but it may be what is best for the game in the long run. A feature like this may retain players that might otherwise quit given the option to do so. It may help draw in more players as well. I try to look at the whole of the issue in what is best for the game, players and CCP and not just what I like or don't like. I have supported many ideas that would be harmful to my current gameplay style and what I like to do because I believe it would benefit others more.

I don't need my SP refunded...I haven't made any choices I can't live with or don't think I will need or use down the line. Hell even my starter skills will eventually be used despite being useless to me right now. However...I think an SP refund option will benefit the game on a whole. Why do we care if vets do this? They have a shitload of SP as it is...nothing will change there. Why do we care if the noobs do this? They have so little SP compared to most that it likely wont make a dent in the overall scheme of things.

I almost don't care either way frankly. If given the option to untrain and move SP I would welcome the challenge. New players that don't know what they want to do yet can finally do what they want by correcting mistakes while again not completely destroying the time = experience paradigm that EvE has set up.

What do you think a "PROPOSAL" is? If you owned a business and had to make a decision would you choose what is best for the company or what is best for you? Why is it that your approval or disapproval is the final say? What makes YOU so important?

Questions go both ways bud.

This.


And my point is obvious.

Your aragoance and ignorance of the matter is the point...I could no more stop your incesist whining and posting over your hypocritical stance than anyone else can...nor can you stop me.

Your adding gas to a fire that can be best ignored...becasue you feel obligated by some sick sense of duty to make a proposal that you yourself admit to not beleiving or supporting.

That is the worst kind of thing you can do to this game....I'm saying...if you have nothing constructive to add that you yourself can get behind..then kindly please walk away.

I will not let people prance around thinking they can just push there ideas when they fail to pass various tests of mettle and mechanics.

Like the fine gent before me said...this is stupid beyond reason.

People are ignoring this topic because its literally just that bad.

I'm done here as far as that is concerned...your a lost cause.

NO

Also you have this " EvE is about the SANDBOX! " in your sig, and you propose such change... omg

No skill is useless in EVE (except Defender missiles! I WANT MY SP BACK!!!! ) so I have no idea why anyone would choose to waste time forgetting skills they've already learned.

Just because you don't use it today does not mean you will not use it in future.

Also, as other's have pointed out, your actions in EVE have consequences so I would rather not upset the game balance by removing this. I have never heard any other MMO allowing you to change your skills once learned.

No support from me for this.

Sandbox is about no restrictions...you want to restrict people from respeccing SP if they choose too...in other words...your post makes no sense.

The point is to save you SP, which is what you've paid for with your time and money.


Just because you might use it in the future doesn't mean you should be stuck with it today.


Eve has distinguished itself from other MMOs with unusual game mechanics.

Your actions would still have consequences so, I don't understand how it would upset the game balance.

I thought this thread was dead with all the trolling going on in it...oh well...

@Hathrul. An amendment to the idea was later made in the thread to cut the unlearning time in half. That way you aren't wasting ALL of your time and could technically gain time by removing a skill you never use and putting the points into something you want.

Lets say you have skill A that took you 6 days to learn and skill B which is entirely unlearned but will also take you 6 days. You no longer need or want A so you unlearn it in 3 days and put all the SP into skill B thus learning skill B in 3 days instead of 6 by sacrificing skill A which you already spent 6 days to learn. When all is said and done it took you a total of 9 days to learn skill B but 6 of it may have been 5 years ago.

No.