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Gangs? Try mainline fleet doctrines. T1 and navy BS have been almost completely supplanted by pirate BS.

Do you really not see why that's a problem?

I strongly advise against any kind of nerf to the escalation spawns. Escalations are a great content creator in this game as they make people do risky stuff which tends to lead to many kinds of interaction with other players.

Keep the changes to droprates and/ or required materials please.

Will this ignite the return of the true Rooks and Kings?

why dont u fix navy faction battleship or even standard battleships to be on par with other battleships. battleships in general are supposed to be powerful but not very many people use them anymore cause mach's are better.

T1 BS are shite in comparison, which IS the problem. If there was a viable alternative for the Mach it wouldn't automatically be the go to.

As for Navy versions, being LP based as soon as one sees more than average use the price goes up to match and demand will always outstrip supply. Napocs were a thing but got priced out of usefulness..

Making pirate ships cost more isn't going to "fix" any problems - Those who can afford them will still use them, those who can't or don't want to spend the extra will keep complaining - Devs will keep increasing costs and reducing supply until they once again become a rarely used niche class of ships.

So the real question is are you going to rebalance/recalculate ALL pirate NPC ship build reqs incorporating the faction build mats that were introduced with the pirate caps(even though yes you'll have to add in new materials for subcaps and the pirate caps you haven't done yet), as you should, or just piecemeal it hope it works out?




Also, while we're at it, can we consider carrying this into the Navy stuff as well, with possible segway into caps, keeping consideration for *whether we decide the LP market is a good or bad thing that should go the way of the dodo*. I'd be just as excited about a Roden or Federation Moros as a Serpentis Moros.


*EDIT: because personally I'd rather see the LP market go as well, though I don't have a super great idea for replacing it.

As an (ex) explorer I have to say the change to escalations doesn't make me sad. I did exploration as my sole PvE activity from 2010 until early this year. The thrill of running gate camps, scouting with an alt, and the big find where one site paid for Eve for a month on a good drop was really the hook that got me into Eve. I liked it so much I've written articles about it, taught classes to Goons on it, and held it up as the right balance between risk and reward to anyone who asked. And, as of the start of the year, drops from anom escalations devalued the rewards to much they drove me out of it.

I tried like hell to keep going too. I figured out site spawn theory and started exploring in dangerous areas where others weren't brave enough to go since that got me more sites. I went from two alts to four, from a couple T1 battleships to three spider tanking Domis to three bling-fit rattlesnakes to three sins and a covops-cyno/prober scout to get more efficient at finding sweet sweet deadspace sites. But the value of the drops just kept going down. In the end, even with the sins running sites almost non-stop and the scout doing archeology the whole time, it just didn't pay anymore.

There is more Isk and less risk in almost any other PvE activity, to include active anom ratting in a carrier or faction battleship... and selling the escalations to a site running service. And yes, I could have just bought sites, but it wasn't grinding out 10/10s all day I really loved. It was moving between systems, running sites in hostile space with a red in local and daring them to come in and get me, it was the finding of a system crammed full of signatures after working out where others explored and daring to go where they wouldn't.

As an explorer who misses the PvE that made Eve awesome every minute I sit on rocks and watch my drones grind out spod, I support these changes. I actually have more Isk now, but earning is is a lot less fun. So maybe this change will do a bit to save nullsec exploration from being devalued into the new belt ratting. I can only hope.

It's supposed to be the case that those who can afford/feel they're worth it use them. Those who don't will use something cheaper. That isn't a problem, especially when the general premise is linear power gains for exponential increases in cost.

The problem is that, right now, the list of people who can afford them and feel they're worth it is... basically everyone, because the pricing, at present, offers linear power gains for linear increases in cost.

Should a 5% improvement come with a 500% increase in value?

I'd say that's too expensive for the benefit they provide.

that's the way eve always has been and always should be.