Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bounty system should be simple, effective and bring a lot of fun for anyone willing to participate.

There are many red and green flags that would need to be implemented to make sure this works and prevents abuse.

The whole bounty system is to create more PVP within high sec and low sec.

Here is list of rules on how this would work and get triggered


*only person that can put on bounty is one that was shot at , podded, got ship blown, stolen property like can flipping and actions that would flag the villain as criminal

*bounty can only be placed within limited timer to prevent abuse from the victim such as placing bounty multiple times soon after its been claimed

*once bounty has been placed it can be claimed by players with Bounty Hunter licence, the Wanted person has to be podded

*bounty cannot be placed on player with followings flag/status
-war dec.
-faction warfare
-duels
-scams
-shooting player corp mates
-shooting alliance members
-shooting at objects belonging to any of the above

*bounty can only be placed as ISK, it would NOT be automatically placed based on value of destroyed assets when victim gets blown ( insurance is for that reason)

*can only place bounty in the faction / empire boarder where crime was committed

*wanted people would only have bounty shown on their heads in the faction side they committed the crime in

*cannot place bounty's in null space

*cannot place bounty's in WH space



Bounty Hunter / Wanted and various flags how this would function.


There would be certain benefits as to be Wanted and Bounty Hunter hence the thread title.


*there would a be timer as when the bounty gets posed on villains head, this would start as soon as victim reaches any NPC station with Bounty Hunters office, than there would be limited time in which they will report that player or forfeit their chance to do so

*if player wont report then villain wont be flagged

If you want to be Bounty Hunter you need to buy license per empire, to hunt Wanted people, licence would have expiration form the date of purchase, this is to give wanted people some mobility over different faction boarders and perhaps let them survive little longer

To become Bounty Hunter you need to be in good standing per faction / empire, anything above 3 should be okay or however devs would decide to be fair game, this sort of system should not be forgiving, this is to prevent any abuse

You cannot be Bounty Hunter if you have bounty on your head for that side of faction but you can be bounty hunter in the faction you did not get Wanted flag or is in good standing to buy license.

Bounty Hunters with license can buy Bounty Hunter skins for their ship, same for Wanted players, if they want to play as criminals.

Ship skin can only be applied while having valid bounty hunter license for the faction.

If you have a skin on ship and your license would expire, the ship skin defaults to what ever it is when ship is manufactured and your need to buy another skin with Bounty Hunter points acquired. Should not be expensive at all, because it supposed to be fun.

As you're in a role of Bounty Hunter you gain standing with Bounty Hunter NPC store, that’s where devs get creative as to what can be unique and purchased from the store.

None of the items should provide any advantage in pvp / pve, purely cosmetics, some items would be more unique ( this is also up to devs)

If you commit crime, your Bounty Hunter standing gets hit hard and you lose license till you fix your faction standing and reacquire license for that faction.

You will get no points if you kill same person more than once within limited time frame to prevent abuse of Bounty Hunter store point system.

I think between crime and report of villain something with 1 hour should be good start.

So I bolded the part that kills your entire plan.

Bubbles are the only realistic way to catch a pod unless you have a stupid pilot who isn't pre-aligned to warp their pod out. Since bubbles are only usable in null, where this "wanted" status would be exceedingly uncommon under your criteria, bounties would basically never get collected.

The most amazing thing about the bounty system is that, as awful as it is, almost every proposed "solution" somehow manages to be dramatically worse.

No restrictions? Have you actualy read your own OP?

Why can I, as a nullsec player, not participate in your bounty system in any way shape or form, and how is that not a restriction?

How can I do everything in your system that I can in the current one if I cannot bounty you for your posting, SurrenderMonkey for his hair, old pervert for local smack, or literally anyone else for any reason I can think of that the game's aggression system does not consider a hostile act? Bumpers, campers, industrial competitors, useless couriers, corp thieves, members of TEST, friends of mine, people in expensive ships, badposters and friendly FCs all deserve bounties too. Why is it a bad thing for me to place them, and how is preventing me from doing so not a restriction?

You are confusing the Bounty system with a legal system.
The Bounty system is not intended to be anything to do with laws, outlaws or anything else. It is there for players to put money on another players head as an incentive for someone to kill them.

Your idea is not more meaningful, it is destroying the entire existing system and all the players who use the existing system. A revamp would maintain the majority of the features, such as the ability to bounty anyone, and the ability for anyone to collect on a bounty.
Your idea is a total change without presenting any need for said change, and is also totally exploitable.

That's not how bounties work (any more).

The bounty value listed on a player is more like a "pool", and when someone kills them they get a percentage of the value of the ship killed from what remains in the pool. You will always earn less on the bounty than the cost of the ship lost, so unless you've stolen a corporate hangar and have ships to burn, you'd be losing money killing yourself.

Example using fake and simple numbers: Player has a 300k bounty and is killed in a 100k ISK ship. I've read the max percentage is 20% if it's a solo kill. So their killer earns 20k ISK, and there's 280k remaining bounty on the player.

Furthermore, restricting reasons for placing bounties means restricting the ways Eve is our sandbox. It's a way to create, or respond to, conflict without directly taking up your own arms. Maybe to incentivize others to apply pressure to a group starting to operate on "your" turf, or make a traitor/thief/scammer a possible target in wherever they move on to. Any slight, real or imagined, is fair game.

ok, so let me get this straight..........

1.) Have to have a Faction Standing minimum of 3 (Gallente, Minmatar, Caldari, Amarr, ORE, etc) to obtain a License to Collect Bounties in their Realm of Space (for the Empires this is High and Low security). So you need 4 different License for each?

2.) Can only place a Bounty on a character with which you have had an actual Combat PvP experience with

3.) There are no Bounty Offices in nullsec? do the Pirate Factions count as Factions in this regard? So ok you can not place a bounty on someone while you are in nullsec.

4.) a Bounty can only be placed on someone in.....what 15minutes or so of interaction? (think that conforms with the Flashy Red and Yellow crime timers)

5.) Someone with a bounty on their head would only show as Wanted in the Empire space the Bounty was created in.

6.) You can not place a bounty on someone you are @ War(opposite FW member), in a duel, in a corp/alliance with.

7.) Bounty Hunter License has an expiration date....30 days? can we say PLEX anyone? How much would a License cost?

8.) Commit a Criminal act (flashy yellow/red) as a Bounty Hunter you lose said License immediately for that Empire.

9.) Bounty Hunter LP store....Cosmetic Items only....30 day skins? wtf....no

10.) Would you get ISK or just LP from completing a Bounty Kill?

11.) This is EvE, items are not Bound to characters/account, at least not till you consume/use them we have an open market....no bounding.

I can see some relevancy for a few things and not so much on others, I am slightly intrigued.......
As to the others on a few comments.....Being a Bounty Hunter should be restrictive, not a free for all, want that playstyle move out of null...i get it.

To the OP, I think i have the basic concept your shooting for am i correct?

1.) Have to have a Faction Standing minimum of 3 (Gallente, Minmatar, Caldari, Amarr, ORE, etc) to obtain a License to Collect Bounties in their Realm of Space (for the Empires this is High and Low security). So you need 4 different License for each?

*Yes one licence per faction, total 4 if you want to do BH everywhere, this is to provide more freedom to Wanted person in case lest says you are -5 with Minmatar but +5 with Amarr so you cant endlessly chase that guy unless you fix your standing


2.) Can only place a Bounty on a character with which you have had an actual Combat PvP experience with

*Yes, thats like current criminal flag, he did something to you and report him and place bounty


3.) There are no Bounty Offices in nullsec? do the Pirate Factions count as Factions in this regard? So ok you can not place a bounty on someone while you are in nullsec.

*I would prefer leaving null and WH out of it, because its vast, lawless, chasing Wanted guys would almost become impossible there, that's why high and low sec would provided better visibility for this sort of game

*as far as pirate factions, this could be somehow incorporated down the road and involve them somehow and perhaps other NPC factions as well


4.) a Bounty can only be placed on someone in.....what 15minutes or so of interaction? (think that conforms with the Flashy Red and Yellow crime timers)

*Correct, timers could be higher since perhaps if your clone facility is far, this is to provide you all the time you need to report criminal activity


5.) Someone with a bounty on their head would only show as Wanted in the Empire space the Bounty was created in.

*Correct


6.) You can not place a bounty on someone you are @ War(opposite FW member), in a duel, in a corp/alliance with.

*Correct


7.) Bounty Hunter License has an expiration date....30 days? can we say PLEX anyone? How much would a License cost?

*The expiration is irrelevant to plex timer, it can be set at 7 days, if BH forgets to renew licence he may miss juicy reward, this is to provide more chances to escape for Wanted guys


8.) Commit a Criminal act (flashy yellow/red) as a Bounty Hunter you lose said License immediately for that Empire.

*yes, this could be tweaked where, let say you shoot at someone accidentally it will cost you 1 point of faction standing, if you blow someones or pod them it will revoke you BH licence for that faction, since it would go below minimum recommended for BH license


9.) Bounty Hunter LP store....Cosmetic Items only....30 day skins? wtf....no

*This is some of the things that can be acquired, BH skin's would be for all ships, and would cost 1 LP for example, this is sort of like you cant drive cop car if your not a cop, if you would lose license because you decided to go lawless you would lose skin on X ship, back to default


10.) Would you get ISK or just LP from completing a Bounty Kill?

*Both


11.) This is EvE, items are not Bound to characters/account, at least not till you consume/use them we have an open market....no bounding.

*Right, reason for it is to prevent certain degree of abuse, can be always tweaked to please majority

I can see some relevancy for a few things and not so much on others, I am slightly intrigued.......
As to the others on a few comments.....Being a Bounty Hunter should be restrictive, not a free for all, want that playstyle move out of null...i get it.

To the OP, I think i have the basic concept your shooting for am i correct?

*you got it

I can also create more alts to shoot my main...