Player Features and Ideas Discussion

maybe with the new bomb ideas people are suggesting, having a ship that is more useful in a large fleet fight situation instead of a stealth bomber, maybe a dedicated strategic bomber, like can fit 3 bomb launchers and 3 torp launchers but not covops, battlecruiser class, bonuses to anti capital/focused bomb types, faster than normal BC's, less tankier than normal bc's but better agility and speed

Basically a stealth bomber, that isnt stealthy, can drop more bombs and is more useful in capital fights, say against fax wings, launching 3 focused void bombs at 3 different faxes to disrupt logi for capitals

would kind of help the Faxes in WH's problem if implemented soundly, especially with new bomb type ideas.

fitting style as below maybe

6 Highslots

3 Launcher slots, can fit torp launchers

can fit 3 bomb launchers

4 High slots

4 Low slots

2 Rig slots


maybe introduce new rigs that give bonuses to bomb launchers (cycle and cooldown times maybe), or just a role bonus to decrease cooldown / cycle time for bomb launchers

suggestions or similar ideas maybe

Stealth Bombers are already ridiculously useful in capital fights, and in fact their usefulness goes up the larger the fight gets.

Something like this is really not needed.

I've proposed Strategic/tactical Bombers before too.

My idea was for high slots: 2 bomb launchers, 2 torpedo launchers (RoF nerfed slightly), 1 utility slot and no covert cloaks. The ship would be frigate sized, based off SB hulls, but would have a much reduced agility and max speed compared to the stealth bomber variants. It would also have stronger repair bonuses and either destroyer strength shield or armor base HP. So basically they could tank just long enough to maybe get one round of bombs off before getting caught, but theyd do twice the damage. If the pilot was talented he might pull a bomb run off and get out alive, but he can't warp in or out cloaked. So, maybe set a trap with them?? These would likely draw in major attention because of the high threat, but like I said twice the risk twice the damage, maybe it's a wash? Yes, no, maybe?

It was emediately shot down. Must sound too over power, or not worth the Isk to risk ratio I guess. Either way there are other priorities for development in the near future.

So...why should it be easier to delete entire fleets? A bomb that does more damage does not make it harder to delete entire fleets, even if there's a cooldown on it.

So let me get this straight. There is a possible problem (faxes in w-space) so we need a brand new class of ship to deal with this problem?

If I have summarized this correctly this is a very bad suggestion. There would be nothing to keep this “solution” from getting out into other parts of space and being used there and creating unforeseen balance issues.

Here is a good rule to try and live by, when fixing a problem….don’t make a whole bunch of new ones in the process.

This is not evolution. Evolution is a process of change and emergence, what this is just dropping something fully formed into the game.

Yes, look at CCP and the stuff they've done and take warning. Sheesh. You see all that and yet here you are in your overbearing hubris.

I see what you're getting at, but calling this flipper-baby of an idea "fully formed" is a little charitable, don't you think?

While the OP idea here is horribly broken (we're trying to encourage capital fights these days and knowing that bombs are waiting will just leave them docked), I must say that deleting anchored fleets is a good thing. Players should pilot their own ships. If they're anchored, they're just F1 monkeys and they deserve to get bombed into oblivion.

Perhaps a guided bomb that does damage based on how many ships are within 3km. Make it a cruiser utility high slot module, and anchor fleet strategies of every sort will disappear overnight! Say for example the damage gets to be troublesome around 5 ships within 3km. 10 ships and you can probably kiss your hind quarters goodbye.

I'm kind of trolling, but kind of not. I hate anchoring.

That's why I posted this one: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6952173

Not bigger bombs, or more bombs, but weirder bombs. Like one bomb for each weapons system that decreases damage in an area, or bombs used to kill asteroid belts after sneaking into enemy industrial systems. Or even PVE bombs... does anyone actually use bombs in PVE?

Has anyone considered doing a bomb run with several bombers on Drifters when their over-shield are about to pop? I mean if you warp off and there's no one else on grip when the bombs hit what can they DD? Even if the DDed a bomber who cares their cheap. I don't know how the mechanics of Drifters work though, never had anything to do with them, so this maybe impossible.