Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Which brings us full circle to where fek is.

Can't answer the arguments. So becomes snide and thinks everyone is just being mean.

'this is eve' right?

Ok, let me resummarize :
"undock queue to prevent flooding the exit, it could take hours to leave the station."
I suggest thousands of ejection points, that should cover most 50 ejections at the same time.

"how do you know which one your hauler alt is going to come out of?"
Ok, to avoid the built in values of the freighter, you can FAKE a duel and web your alt. This exploit can't easely be reproduced, so I guess fixing the bumping will undo this exploit (or feature as CCP calls it). This is a good point against the fixing bumping as this would break 'legacy code'.

Daichi Yamato "you can dock anywhere". I hope a PC can predict where you go otherwise this game would not be possible, don't you think? EVE Online is for ...
I skip your other waterfall of random questions that make no sense without your perspective. Also I did not speak about DOCK but UN-DOCK, there is a difference between it, look it up. The server can predict where you warp in and can even ppredict where you fly to thanks to programming ....I can see your over emotional reaction on loosing your exploit to make slow ships warp much faster. Calm down already. Yes, I can counter your arguments but "Why force us to **** around with a mini-game just to dock? Why spin stations around and **** with people's bookmarks? Why does traffic need to flow 'better'? And what does that even mean? How does it not flow just fine with current mechanics? Why can't you use insta-undocks to avoid traffic?" Aren't even questions they are ramblings about your anger of loosing the ability 'to make ships go faster than intended'.

Then tanother troll (Lugh Crow-Slave) goes on about "who has to be fined? Ok, let's not fine, that was just a secondary thing and I see it hurt your feelings so much I will drop that idea. The simple answer is who gets fined? Well those that do not met the programmings' ruleset. That's how programs work.

Then you ramble on and on about fines and what if people get under 0.... under 0? from 1000 ISK fines ? Which with the evasion mechanic in place? Well, then don't block other players... then you keep being scared at those dreadfull fines which are just a secondary but if you say CCP can't program that, ok then Dev.


I don't have time to hold your hands, if you can't contribute anything positive and cling to exploiting webbifiers just say so, don't troll like crazy and go on and on about how bad CCP is in programming simple rules. The whole idea was to ask people on what ideas to make the game better but I now realize this would stop people from exploiting so I'll call it a day and ask CCP to close this tread.

So please close this tread some people have communicative problems. Let's keep bumping as people would loose webbing exploits. There, we now have a reason to stop this. Also, trolling should be fined with 1000 ISK fines :D But what if people go below that? What if ... what if people in this game just like to protect their exploits ? they just use alts to post. There, sploit like you got a pair of alts.

Fek was talking about making docking more realistic (by which he means take longer. How fun)

You still don't get it about the fines. I can park a freighter in front of an undock and people will bump into me. Hundreds of people will be fined by the server just because they happened to undock where I parked a big ship. How do you not understand this yet!

Multiple exits? Great. So i have to make several insta-undock book marks per station I use and name them all after each possible exit on a station. OR we could leave things as they are where people can instantly get out of a busy station using one bookmark. Not several.
Its not like collisions on a station are even a problem anyway. Are they?


Forgive me if I've been emotional. But you don't seem to get how ******* dumb and pointless this is. It's a massive waste of time and fucks up peoples game play. And why? Because your ocd is tickling you...

Isk sinks are only good if isk faucets are too strong. Where as its never good to fine someone for accidentally bumping someone in a game. Same with damage. Imagine the tedium of repairing yourself everytime you undock from a station or having to fit tank just to survive the undock.

What about gankers? They could use this mechanic to kamikaze into other peoples ships without becoming criminal. So make it a crime? Now we are concording people who accidentally bump into other players, putting kill rights on them for a month and lowering their sec status. This is a lot worse than a fine.

The idea is un-workable. Realism is 'cool', but it can open a world of exploits and ruin gameplay.

For instance; how real is it than we don't use fuel? Or instantly communicate across light years? Are immortal? Drive spaceships with our minds? Fire artillery shells the size of bikes over 100km in the blink of an eye? Don't have to eat? Mine asteroids that are unlimited in quantity, respawning every day forever? Can fly through planets, moons and suns? Fly through soup rather than space?
And so on...

Except changing the shape of a single station when you can fly through so many depending where you warp to is pointless.
Especially when it's already explained in game lore as the warp bubble slightly removing you from reality (Which also is a theoretical model for real physics as a possibility also, though it is just theory obviously).
And rotating the station, congratulations, you just broke hundreds of thousands of book marks. And no I'm not over-estimating that number, if anything I'm under estimating that number.

So in order to satisfy your own issue with the way warp works in EVE in a very specific instance (since you can end up warping through the station even after your change if you aren't going to perimeter.) you want to inconvenience a massive portion of the player base in an actual physical manner. I also don't think you comprehend how many bookmarks exist around the station, and how many of those would break if you rotated them because they are bounces from a celestial. It's not a simple function of rotating the instant un-dock ones because CCP have no way to tell what they are for.

Or you could just HTFU and deal with the way warp works in EVE.

This would work, sorry to join the convo late. If you've played the initial tutorial mode, you know how cool a bunch of ships staging around a citadel looks.