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Lillith Dragonia
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-06-04 22:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Lillith Dragonia
It's to my understanding that multiboxing is allowed as long as i don't relay commands over to other accounts without actually touching them.

Now, is it still allowed to use a program that allows me to put tiny boxes of that eve client over my current client so that i can rapidly switch between them without having to alt-tab all the time. Just for the means of switching accounts.

edit: If it is allowed within the eula, could anyone recommend me a program that does just that and won't get me banned.

What i mean is, i saw people in video's on YouTube having basically resized clients ontop of their main client, not to manipulate things trough that window but to switch to that client. I rat and mine on 2 accounts, would be easier to keep an eye on it that way if it is allowed.
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2017-06-04 22:44:05 UTC
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
It's to my understanding that multiboxing is allowed as long as i don't relay commands over to other accounts without actually touching them.

Now, is it still allowed to use a program that allows me to put tiny boxes of that eve client over my current client so that i can rapidly switch between them without having to alt-tab all the time. Just for the means of switching accounts.

edit: If it is allowed within the eula, could anyone recommend me a program that does just that and won't get me banned.


I don't judge people. Well, I do, but usually before all evidence is in. That aside, if you use any software to give you an advantage over normal players you will be permanently banned. You can run as many clients as you like but you should be controlling them in a non automated way. You do know you can run EVE Online client in a "windowed mode" and just use the windows taskbar to swap quickly to whatever client you like (in stead of alt tabbing till you get there)? Using a 3rd party software to do the same is strange, normally people ask it like "A friend of mine..." .
Lillith Dragonia
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-06-04 22:50:07 UTC
Aedaxus wrote:
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
It's to my understanding that multiboxing is allowed as long as i don't relay commands over to other accounts without actually touching them.

Now, is it still allowed to use a program that allows me to put tiny boxes of that eve client over my current client so that i can rapidly switch between them without having to alt-tab all the time. Just for the means of switching accounts.

edit: If it is allowed within the eula, could anyone recommend me a program that does just that and won't get me banned.


I don't judge people. Well, I do, but usually before all evidence is in. That aside, if you use any software to give you an advantage over normal players you will be permanently banned. You can run as many clients as you like but you should be controlling them in a non automated way. You do know you can run EVE Online client in a "windowed mode" and just use the windows taskbar to swap quickly to whatever client you like (in stead of alt tabbing till you get there)? Using a 3rd party software to do the same is strange, normally people ask it like "A friend of mine..." .


I don't actually use anything, i just alt-tab my way trough fullscreen windowed accounts. I saw some people in video's having alts in smaller boxes, basically resized clients to a smaller window i suppose but that turned full screen when they clicked on them. Was wondering if that was allowed. I know automated stuff is against the eula and don't want that :). Also, generally when people use "a friend of mine ..." everyone knows they mean themselves :).
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2017-06-04 23:03:00 UTC
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
Aedaxus wrote:
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
It's to my understanding that multiboxing is allowed as long as i don't relay commands over to other accounts without actually touching them.

Now, is it still allowed to use a program that allows me to put tiny boxes of that eve client over my current client so that i can rapidly switch between them without having to alt-tab all the time. Just for the means of switching accounts.

edit: If it is allowed within the eula, could anyone recommend me a program that does just that and won't get me banned.


I don't judge people. Well, I do, but usually before all evidence is in. That aside, if you use any software to give you an advantage over normal players you will be permanently banned. You can run as many clients as you like but you should be controlling them in a non automated way. You do know you can run EVE Online client in a "windowed mode" and just use the windows taskbar to swap quickly to whatever client you like (in stead of alt tabbing till you get there)? Using a 3rd party software to do the same is strange, normally people ask it like "A friend of mine..." .


I don't actually use anything, i just alt-tab my way trough fullscreen windowed accounts. I saw some people in video's having alts in smaller boxes, basically resized clients to a smaller window i suppose but that turned full screen when they clicked on them. Was wondering if that was allowed. I know automated stuff is against the eula and don't want that :). Also, generally when people use "a friend of mine ..." everyone knows they mean themselves :).


A friend of mine has mulitple accounts and uses windowed mode, it also makes it more fluid to swap to another alt, google, the zkillboard, market and other info sites, probably also to make memes. ISBoxer can be used but be carefull not to use some of it's automation features as you'll get banned one day.
Lillith Dragonia
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-06-04 23:04:34 UTC
Aedaxus wrote:
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
Aedaxus wrote:
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
It's to my understanding that multiboxing is allowed as long as i don't relay commands over to other accounts without actually touching them.

Now, is it still allowed to use a program that allows me to put tiny boxes of that eve client over my current client so that i can rapidly switch between them without having to alt-tab all the time. Just for the means of switching accounts.

edit: If it is allowed within the eula, could anyone recommend me a program that does just that and won't get me banned.


I don't judge people. Well, I do, but usually before all evidence is in. That aside, if you use any software to give you an advantage over normal players you will be permanently banned. You can run as many clients as you like but you should be controlling them in a non automated way. You do know you can run EVE Online client in a "windowed mode" and just use the windows taskbar to swap quickly to whatever client you like (in stead of alt tabbing till you get there)? Using a 3rd party software to do the same is strange, normally people ask it like "A friend of mine..." .


I don't actually use anything, i just alt-tab my way trough fullscreen windowed accounts. I saw some people in video's having alts in smaller boxes, basically resized clients to a smaller window i suppose but that turned full screen when they clicked on them. Was wondering if that was allowed. I know automated stuff is against the eula and don't want that :). Also, generally when people use "a friend of mine ..." everyone knows they mean themselves :).


A friend of mine has mulitple accounts and uses windowed mode, it also makes it more fluid to swap to another alt, google, the zkillboard, market and other info sites, probably also to make memes. ISBoxer can be used but be carefull not to use some of it's automation features as you'll get banned one day.

i see, thanks
Sarah Flynt
Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#6 - 2017-06-04 23:06:49 UTC
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
It's to my understanding that multiboxing is allowed as long as i don't relay commands over to other accounts without actually touching them.

Correct

Lillith Dragonia wrote:
Now, is it still allowed to use a program that allows me to put tiny boxes of that eve client over my current client so that i can rapidly switch between them without having to alt-tab all the time. Just for the means of switching accounts.

edit: If it is allowed within the eula, could anyone recommend me a program that does just that and won't get me banned.

What i mean is, i saw people in video's on YouTube having basically resized clients ontop of their main client, not to manipulate things trough that window but to switch to that client. I rat and mine on 2 accounts, would be easier to keep an eye on it that way if it is allowed.

As long as these resized clients are miniatures of the full client window and not just certain parts of it, that is allowed.

A good and free EULA conform software to do that is e.g. https://github.com/Phrynohyas/eve-o-preview

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Lillith Dragonia
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-06-04 23:11:42 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
Lillith Dragonia wrote:
It's to my understanding that multiboxing is allowed as long as i don't relay commands over to other accounts without actually touching them.

Correct

Lillith Dragonia wrote:
Now, is it still allowed to use a program that allows me to put tiny boxes of that eve client over my current client so that i can rapidly switch between them without having to alt-tab all the time. Just for the means of switching accounts.

edit: If it is allowed within the eula, could anyone recommend me a program that does just that and won't get me banned.

What i mean is, i saw people in video's on YouTube having basically resized clients ontop of their main client, not to manipulate things trough that window but to switch to that client. I rat and mine on 2 accounts, would be easier to keep an eye on it that way if it is allowed.

As long as these resized clients are miniatures of the full client window and not just certain parts of it, that is allowed.

A good and free EULA conform software to do that is e.g. https://github.com/Phrynohyas/eve-o-preview

Thank you :)
Mahayana Buddhadarma
Center For Exploration Life And PVE
#8 - 2017-06-04 23:14:45 UTC
While it is not likely encouraged, I would go as far as to say that At least half of the veteran "pro" capsuleers multibox. I just began a couple days ago, as I wanted to move a very expensive (expensive relative to me) ship that I bought on contracts in losec, in an area that was camped frequently. I needed a scout/hospital ship to ensure safe transit through the setup. My instincts were right, so I waited till maint time and logged in and made the move right away once the server was back online. Reward for the diligence? A 2.5B fitted faction battleship for 750M isk. Scam the scammers, as they say.
Anyway, I have a very small Corp and am starting to crave PVP and player interaction, so I will continue to multibox for things that require more than one capsuleer. I do, however recommend simply using 2 boxes. I use 2 laptops (alienware 18 w/ dual 780M cards for my main, and either the Mac Pro or a cheap clunker 200 dollar laptop w/graphics settings on lowest for my auxiliary account. It is so much easier than switching with all tab, which also gets glitchy. I don't use any kind of software to help me, not macros or any of that but I do believe that autohotkey is BARELY tolerated, if you need to go that route. You just can't use it to gain an advantage of any sort, although having 2 accounts logged at once already does. Ive seen where autohotkey can be used to auto propagate a spreadsheet with market data and the spreadsheet then makes predictive results (used for industry and trading margins etc, you can see examples of this if you google.) I think that CCP may keep wording a bit loose on this to give them discretionary power, which is completely understandable. Keep a few things in mind:
Both accounts must be placed
You cannot use a shortcut or macro or script or program to do things like keep aligned, automatically stop at a moon before a gate (to avoid bubbles) etc.), keep fire on a target, speed up or go gate to gate on on your own autopilot... Etc.
If you violate the ULA, really the only thing you gain from it is a bad experience. It will ruin the game for you. If you get caught (and they will catch you), you will also get banned and loose your hard earned cash. Any way you slice it the game is not a game anymore and the experience becomes unpleasant. There's no point in playing then.
I doubt CCP would directly answer this question, given the need to have discretionary authority here, but basically my advice is to make sure that whatever you do, stay completely within the ULA. Also, if you run in windowed mode, you may he able to use 2 screens and one workstation, or split screen -haven't tried this but it may solve your problem. Hope this helps, Ijiraq
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#9 - 2017-06-04 23:57:44 UTC
Mahayana Buddhadarma wrote:
While it is not likely encouraged, I would go as far as to say that At least half of the veteran "pro" capsuleers multibox. I just began a couple days ago, as I wanted to move a very expensive (expensive relative to me) ship that I bought on contracts in losec, in an area that was camped frequently. I needed a scout/hospital ship to ensure safe transit through the setup. My instincts were right, so I waited till maint time and logged in and made the move right away once the server was back online. Reward for the diligence? A 2.5B fitted faction battleship for 750M isk. Scam the scammers, as they say.
Anyway, I have a very small Corp and am starting to crave PVP and player interaction, so I will continue to multibox for things that require more than one capsuleer. I do, however recommend simply using 2 boxes. I use 2 laptops (alienware 18 w/ dual 780M cards for my main, and either the Mac Pro or a cheap clunker 200 dollar laptop w/graphics settings on lowest for my auxiliary account. It is so much easier than switching with all tab, which also gets glitchy. I don't use any kind of software to help me, not macros or any of that but I do believe that autohotkey is BARELY tolerated, if you need to go that route. You just can't use it to gain an advantage of any sort, although having 2 accounts logged at once already does. Ive seen where autohotkey can be used to auto propagate a spreadsheet with market data and the spreadsheet then makes predictive results (used for industry and trading margins etc, you can see examples of this if you google.) I think that CCP may keep wording a bit loose on this to give them discretionary power, which is completely understandable. Keep a few things in mind:
Both accounts must be placed
You cannot use a shortcut or macro or script or program to do things like keep aligned, automatically stop at a moon before a gate (to avoid bubbles) etc.), keep fire on a target, speed up or go gate to gate on on your own autopilot... Etc.
If you violate the ULA, really the only thing you gain from it is a bad experience. It will ruin the game for you. If you get caught (and they will catch you), you will also get banned and loose your hard earned cash. Any way you slice it the game is not a game anymore and the experience becomes unpleasant. There's no point in playing then.
I doubt CCP would directly answer this question, given the need to have discretionary authority here, but basically my advice is to make sure that whatever you do, stay completely within the ULA. Also, if you run in windowed mode, you may he able to use 2 screens and one workstation, or split screen -haven't tried this but it may solve your problem. Hope this helps, Ijiraq


You might want to try sinergy if it's still free it allows using keyboard and mice from single pc/laptop to be used on other pc/laptop,

My setup is 2x34 ultra wide stacked on each other and two laptops flanking those monitors from each side and single keyboard and mice for easy and fast 4 eve accounts gaming or any game really but for eve it just amazing.

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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#10 - 2017-06-05 01:44:10 UTC
The only way to get an official answer is to file a support ticket. I suggest you do so.

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