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What's up with Heavy Defender Missiles?

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Kisaria
Andria Astral Enterprises
#1 - 2017-03-20 23:55:39 UTC
Until recently I used to just reprocess Heavy Defender Missiles when I got them as drops. Now I can't reprocess them, or sell them, or trash them. The only thing I have been able to figure out is to go out my front door and fling them out into space. At least with junk mail I can throw it in the garbage or in may case I just pulled my mailbox and now my post office has to deal it.

So is this a new bug and I'm the only one that doesn't know about it? Is there a better solution than cluttering up the front of my space station? Does anyone else have this problem? Just curious.

Please advise.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2017-03-20 23:58:55 UTC
There is such a thing as heavy defender missiles?
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-03-21 00:37:10 UTC
submit ticket, ask to ccp
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2017-03-21 01:04:28 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
If I recall correctly the minimal amount of munitions required to activate reprocessing is 100. I'm not sure if it also applies to selling. Trashing items should always be available, no matter what the item amount is.

On another note, have you cleared your cache files in Esc menu - 'Reset Settings' tab ?

That usually helps to clear out little annoying bugs that show up after game patch release.



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Major Xadi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2017-03-21 02:22:38 UTC
I had same problem. Had over 100. Couldn't reprocess
Daarick Thairleen
Weh Mir Oh Weh
#6 - 2017-03-21 03:17:04 UTC
I had the same experience, and I had a stack of 300. I even left them till I logged on the next day and still could do none of the conventional things you can do with looted stacks of ammo.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#7 - 2017-03-21 03:35:42 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
There is such a thing as heavy defender missiles?


Yeah, back when CCP was still trying to make them even slightly more than completely worthless, they split Defender Missile's up into light and heavy sizes to match the HP buffs CCP simultaneously gave to offensive missiles. Before that every missile type had the same HP amount, 40 I think, then CCP altered them to have increasing amounts as you go up the size scale. Heavy Defenders worked better than Light Defenders but took up more volume of cargo and had less missile velocity, if I recall, making it important to pick the right one for the right missile to counter I suppose. Heavy Defenders had the punch to counter larger missiles, but couldn't out fly smaller missiles, and Light Defenders could catch smaller missiles, but couldn't really do enough damage to counter larger missiles properly.

Honestly even that couldn't save the Defender system obviously and CCP would eventually turn them into what they are now: a strictly anti-bomb system deployed from Destroyers.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
genome II
Palladio Labs
NEST Collective
#8 - 2017-03-31 14:48:05 UTC
Same here.

100 on one toon and 100 on another, can't sell neither reprocess...
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#9 - 2017-03-31 15:46:11 UTC
If I remember the dev blog correctly Heavy Defender missiles are no longer usable as they should have been converted to the new Defender missiles . Please file a bug report, please include if you got the missile before or after the December release and if possible where the dropped from (Mission in System, Rats, anoms) I will poke a bug hunter and see if they are working on it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=501519

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SonoA
Yakiya Tovil-Toba Revange
#10 - 2017-04-10 06:32:56 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
If I remember the dev blog correctly Heavy Defender missiles are no longer usable as they should have been converted to the new Defender missiles . Please file a bug report, please include if you got the missile before or after the December release and if possible where the dropped from (Mission in System, Rats, anoms) I will poke a bug hunter and see if they are working on it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=501519

Did report it and got this as reply:

Hello,

These items used to be available for use within EVE but through changes to the game over the years, they now serve no purpose. As a result, you may either keep them as ornaments or trash them, but it's quite intentional that they cannot be sold, reprocessed or used.

Best regards,
BH ########
voetius
Grundrisse
#11 - 2017-04-11 09:18:38 UTC

Probably worth double checking on trashing as I can trash them and others above have said the same.

If you can't trash them then it might be best you file a bug report about being unable to trash them, not about them still dropping ingame, which they do, in some missions, if not from rats in general.

It shouldn't really need players to identify which ones as sites like Chrukker are able to list drops, so I'm sure it's not beyond the capabilities of CCP to look at the drop tables and amend them accordingly.
Nicola Romanoff
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#12 - 2017-04-11 10:13:12 UTC
I can trash them, just cannot sell on market (not that anyone would buy them) but mre importantly nor can I preprocess them.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#13 - 2017-04-11 19:38:51 UTC
They are still dropping as loot.

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Jon Rackham
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2017-06-04 15:53:16 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
They are still dropping as loot.


Confirmed. I have a stack of 400 that recently dropped as loot--can't remember what mission.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#15 - 2017-06-04 17:14:35 UTC
I had them trained to level 5.

And still embarrassed over it.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!