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FW and its future

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Dromindine
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2017-06-02 10:26:18 UTC
Took a break for a couple years and have returned to see that some changes were made to the FW plexes and such. I have been having a difficult time getting in touch with my old corp and everyone that I seem to speak with in game is either a complete **** or are a Russian. So what Im trying to figure out is why its so damn hard to get into a FW corp and what new and improve changes have been made. Is FW target rich? PLEXing worth the time? Is FW dead and too lopsided? Information would be great because I intend to rejoin FW and but if its a sinking ship, or sunk already, then I'll move on from it.

Also I am looking to get caught up on the last couple of years with nurfs/buffs from ship fitting to market place pricing (i.e. I noticed there is a change in the PLEX trade). If anyone can link me a site that can catch me up that would be outstanding.

Thanks in Advance
ISD Stall
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#2 - 2017-06-02 11:08:16 UTC
Take a look at this website updates.eveonline.com

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SEE YOU ON THE NEW FORUMS
Don Pera Saissore
#3 - 2017-06-02 15:47:48 UTC
Fw has been neglected by devs but its far from dead in terms of content.

As with all corps some research is needed fo find a good one, i cant recommend any of them tbh

Targets are all over the warzone, just dont ***** about stabed farmers and youll have a good time. Amar have lots of targets atm as they are being swarmed by minmatar and galente farmers

Plexing is profitable as long as you are smart with your lp
Dromindine
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2017-06-02 18:13:40 UTC
Alright guys I appreciate the leads and info
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#5 - 2017-06-04 09:05:20 UTC
The caldari/gallente warzone is still alive, not so much the amarr/minnie
Desmios Sanguis
10th Crusade
#6 - 2017-06-04 11:43:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Desmios Sanguis
FW is generally a waste of time unless you are stab farming or in a worm / garmur.

You will need atleast 60-70mil to get started. And insurance will only cover 1.5mil.

Faction hulls are awesome, aren't they? Really integrate well into the faction warfare stepping-stone PvP ladder.
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2017-06-04 12:41:21 UTC
FW and Future are two words that will never match together in this game.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#8 - 2017-06-04 12:55:15 UTC
Try using a catalyst some time. 11.2k ehp and 400dps. Nothing to sniff at. Plus they can sit at zero in a small until the cows come home.
Scath Bererund
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2017-06-04 13:17:43 UTC
The real killer for FW is the faction ships in novice plexes. (Im looking at the worm and garmur here)

Newbros cant start off somewhere they have a chance without falling prey to a kill mark farmer
Aves Asio
#10 - 2017-06-04 15:49:38 UTC
Scath Bererund wrote:
The real killer for FW is the faction ships in novice plexes. (Im looking at the worm and garmur here)

Newbros cant start off somewhere they have a chance without falling prey to a kill mark farmer


That only happens if they are afk and in that case i have no sympathy
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#11 - 2017-06-04 16:02:28 UTC
This thread about low sec roaming has pretty good discussion about current FW.
Desmios Sanguis
10th Crusade
#12 - 2017-06-04 16:30:19 UTC
Scath Bererund wrote:
The real killer for FW is the faction ships in novice plexes. (Im looking at the worm and garmur here)

Newbros cant start off somewhere they have a chance without falling prey to a kill mark farmer


Thats not what Im told.

Im told newbros need to get constantly stomped into the ground by faction garmurs / worms.

The newbros just need to git gud and quit QQ'ing.

Right guys?

**** newbies.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-06-04 19:09:01 UTC
Newbros need to learn how pvp in eve works. And there are 2 ways to do it. Out ship or outnumber.
It takes less than a day to train into destroyers from frigates. And they barely cost anything more. Do smalls instead of novice.
Or,, and here is the real mind blowing one. Take advantage of the fact that this is an mmo and bring some friends along.
Skorpynekomimi
#14 - 2017-06-04 19:17:18 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Newbros need to learn how pvp in eve works. And there are 2 ways to do it. Out ship or outnumber.
It takes less than a day to train into destroyers from frigates. And they barely cost anything more. Do smalls instead of novice.
Or,, and here is the real mind blowing one. Take advantage of the fact that this is an mmo and bring some friends along.


This is pretty much dead on. Want to win? Bring friends or drop ISK.

Economic PVP
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#15 - 2017-06-05 03:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Yeah faction ships in novice plexes are quite powerfull. Buncha newbies need to get together, do some burners and then apply that to pvp with extra sprinkles on top.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#16 - 2017-06-05 11:10:56 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Yeah faction ships in novice plexes are quite powerfull. Buncha newbies need to get together, do some burners and then apply that to pvp with extra sprinkles on top.


Burner missions are NOT newbie friendly.
April rabbit
April rabbit Corporation
#17 - 2017-06-05 14:26:18 UTC
Desmios Sanguis wrote:
Scath Bererund wrote:
The real killer for FW is the faction ships in novice plexes. (Im looking at the worm and garmur here)

Newbros cant start off somewhere they have a chance without falling prey to a kill mark farmer


Thats not what Im told.

Im told newbros need to get constantly stomped into the ground by faction garmurs / worms.

The newbros just need to git gud and quit QQ'ing.

Right guys?

**** newbies.

This is offtopic. However...

When i've started back in the end of 2009 ISK was not so easily obtainable. There was no such thing like newbee-friendly organization.

And yet, i'm here. Never been 'gud' and always did stupid mistakes (last one was like half a year ago when i afk-ed with my full Genolution set sitting on gates in ****-fit frigate i bought from someone). Never got free ships for pve/pvp.

And yet, i'm here.

So when you tell that newbees NEED even more support than they got for last YEARS(!) i ask myself "are they really THAT BAD"?What?
Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#18 - 2017-06-05 15:18:36 UTC
Faction ships is just one possibility in a spectrum of possible counter tactics. One of the first things you learn when you get into faction war is that you don't need expensive ships to beat your opponent. You just need the right ships.

Those special snowflake, bling fit, pirate faction ships do a very good job at isolating and killing weaker targets... But they will trade very poorly in larger attrition based fleet combat. A properly constructed fleet of tech I, fitted with a judicious selection of tech II and tech I meta modules, can punch well above their weight. When properly supported with logi, and EWAR, they will trade very ISK efficiently - and hence drive your opponents wallet into the ground...

Which come to think of it, is precisely the reason why Galmil has been doing so succesfully in these last few months. In the space of only a few days we wiped out Billions of ISK. With 200 Million ISK killmails back to back - and we did it with tech I frigates. Eventually the enemy just ran out of ships,

The whole point of using bling fit ships like Cruor, Garmur, Daredevil, and Dramiel is to achieve flawless victory. But as soon as they start loosing those ships, they will loose badly. They are ill-suited to attirition warfare.