Missions & Complexes

It's really a carrot and club issue here.

The "half of the people doing them are 0.0 guys" could do something amazing like... doing incursions in the place they chose to live in, that is 0.0. They are not excluded off incursions.

Of course, being human beings they go where it's more convenient for the same payout, which is hi sec.
The ships they could use in 0.0 would not be 3-5B ones (because despite the blathering "experts" opinions, 0.0 is NOT so safe to allow so much slacking with ISK).
Plus alliances tend to NOT reimburse ratting / PvE ships (they reimburse what's lost in PvP) therefore find me the moron willing to risk 5B in 0.0. The second he's spotted / rumors about him get out, a roam WILL use a WH or something to go pop him.

Therefore the incursions in 0.0 do yield more ISK on paper but are done in less efficient ways therefore the income is too similar to hi sec.
Also, logistics are harder and just buying consummables and mods it's way more expensive (I know, I did both logistics AND market trading in 0.0 ).

And for a similar income, why ever leave hi sec? Just having Jita at hand makes everything quick'n'easy.

The "why ever leave hi sec" question is at the foundation of 8 years of nerfs.

Oh come on, 3 minute ticks are for either for uber lucky uber pimped Legion fleets having infinite supply of NMCs or for BS fleets with infinite off grid boosters blitzing OTAs (and its always risky no matter how good your tank and logis are... leaving everything alive you are in a race between whoever Sansha primary and last Deltol).

You can't take 3 minute ticks as a baseline for income assumptions.

Get over it.

CCP isn't going to come rescue you. This is not WoW. The sites are not yours. There are no instances. If other players want to come in and end the farming, thats Eve. You can always unsub.

hrmm... Troll is Tolling cause he can it seems:

1. Well can´t really get over someone denying my fun, its an Issue for me after all.
2. I don´t assume CCP will act fast as i already wrote. They will act sooner or later, thats pretty sure.
3. I know this is not WoW since CCP actually cares about ther playerbase and god i´m glad i quit wow quite some time ago.
4. I never said or even remotely mentioned it were my Sites or Instances, thats why the sites get contested if its too crowded, which will lower the income for those that lose the contest.
5. Yes its totally fine in regards to the set Gamerules to Close the Incursions as soon as the MOM is aviable. I just have an Issue with actively closing ALL Highsec incursions at the same time.

Just to start out, I want to say I have no clue why you guys are doing this.

So in my eyes, this is just organised griefing. Especially if you guys make fake logi to get people killed.

You don't seem to have a "noble" goal like wanting to send a message to CCP saying "incursions pays out too much".

You seem to simply want to grief players. You guys are running to the mom, killing it and looting the mom ****. Going straight for the jackpot and messing up everyone else in the process.

I don't know what kind of negotiations you had with the shield and armor fleet groups, but I think I can safely assume it was some kind of blackmail/ransoming. "Give me 10bil monthly or else". What else could you have negotiated. Every possible negotiation would start out with "We will kill the moms if you don't ...". Because that is the only thing you can do and want to do.

I hope you guys enjoy the mom loot and have fun trolling the incursions like you did yesterday, shows how ****** Brick Squad can be. I guess you know how many people want to **** you over now. Including people in your own alliance.

And don't try to say it's all carebears bitching. Incursions are so popular even 0.0 people do them.

And I can see the people bitching towards those people bitching. Just remember this is a *****-fest and Brick Squad is bitching the loudest. Not too abnormal to get some echos. And yea, that means everyone here posting is either going to think he's righteous, or he's gunna *****, either towards Brick Squad or bitchers that ***** towards Brick squad.

And the OP seems to think they are doing something noble. Why is that?

In short. I don't approve cuz I wanted to do some sites to make some more isk to buy myself a new rapier.

Removed for trolling. Navigator.

WOW, this is so funny reading this. I am reminded of JR High . The Jocks ( 0.0 Corps) - The Math Club (Care bears) - all want to be cool and all are calling one another names so they can feel better. If you do not like them farming Incursion, get some friends and go farm it yourself, take that away from them, take it all away from them if it hurts you.

I must also refer to that person who says they hate care bears and cant even stand to hear them talk in voice because they talk about stupid stuff. I assume they are talking about the game or if older adults they are talking about life. If you want to hear talk about how the teacher was hot and you would tap her any time, go call your Jr High Friends and talk with them. I am sure that people have heard you on TS or vent and thought , "WOW what a friggen ******!!!" So get over it.

I assume that EvE has been designed to be close to the reality of human nature and thus the embody the human characteristic and promote it as do what you will, enjoy yourself, within the limited rules. So, If what they are doing is within the rules then live with it! Stop crying and move on. Go take down their pos while they are farming incursion. Be constructive. Or get off line and go be active!

Why ***** at CCP because you don't like the way something is going. If you seriously don't like how they create their game go to another mmorpg, you will be back, we all come back. This game is a challenge and it is fun. There are assholes in it just like real life. There are bullies and there are science enthusiast and math club members and there are the good people who try to make EvE better by doing what they can to help others. Choose your role and go on. Bring it before your reps and CCP and request NOT DEMAND they do something. Don't be one of the so called 99%. Be real, the world does not revolve around you and CCP will not give you virtual welfare. EDEN IS NOT A WELFARE STATE!!!! If you want something, Work for it, If your jealous, don't try to ruin it for those your jealous of.

hey bro... you mad ?

You farm what you need and sell the rest, how is this not a source of isk? Ok I think you are talking about mining isk from roids and moons, this is obvious. If that's what you think I'm talking about, well you're mistaken my friend. Anything you get in eve can be sold and the [some] items found in null aren't found in high sec. Which means that they can be sold for ******** high prices anywhere.

Its irrelevant if its faucet or not, CCP and Dr.Whateverishisname see no problems with it respect to game economy. Game design people have accepted that VGs are too good and will be fixed.