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FiS or WiS? Straw poll. - UPDATED

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Wu Spacey
Spacey Assignments
#121 - 2011-09-17 00:13:18 UTC
Fawcks wrote:
Wu Spacey wrote:
P.i.S.S.! thats rude right? Omg you said it.

REPORTED TO AOL


Can we come to an agreement where im not reported to AOL, Im on a last chance with AOL as it is.
Wu Spacey
Spacey Assignments
#122 - 2011-09-17 00:14:25 UTC
Playing in Station Sustained is what people should be focused ojn
Wu Spacey
Spacey Assignments
#123 - 2011-09-17 00:23:00 UTC
PSN have already shown how an avatar driven environment is going to win precious olittle support. I think CCP can do better, but they better know what they are getting into, this will require a LOT of support
Wu Spacey
Spacey Assignments
#124 - 2011-09-17 00:25:19 UTC
It will be maintainable, but one has to introduce a LOT of enviromental particulars. Ohh and also, dont make people queue for simple games which noone wants to play.
Addrake
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#125 - 2011-09-17 00:27:45 UTC
FiS.

If I wanted to yiff people, I'd be in furcadia.

well..
Wu Spacey
Spacey Assignments
#126 - 2011-09-17 00:31:38 UTC
Addrake wrote:
FiS.

If I wanted to yiff people, I'd be in furcadia.

well..


Are you in charge of Formula 1 atm?
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#127 - 2011-09-17 00:32:20 UTC
Wu Spacey wrote:
It will be maintainable, but one has to introduce a LOT of enviromental particulars. Ohh and also, dont make people queue for simple games which noone wants to play.


There wouldn't be ques for something if nobody wanted "it." lol The logic you see here sometimes.
Notorius
Class V Holdings
#128 - 2011-09-17 00:34:33 UTC
FIS
Sgt Maru
Perkone
Caldari State
#129 - 2011-09-17 00:37:10 UTC
FiS > WiS
Malios45
Perkone
Caldari State
#130 - 2011-09-17 00:48:23 UTC
Both

Get WiS to the point to where it's polished and impacts the EVE universe while you have the momentum. The last thing EVE needs is an another unfinished feature.

But at the same time work on refining the fundamentals of the game as well. EVE has a lot of features right now that appear to be the unpolished ground work for a vision that was made years ago. To name a few: belt mining (maybe just mining in general), FW, 0.0 Infrastructure, PI, Bounty hunting, ect.... the list goes on. If these features can begin to reach what was envisioned and hyped while continuing on tweaking core mechanics (lag, Gallente buff, ect.) we'll begin to see something truly awesome taking shape.
Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2011-09-17 01:07:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Trolls Troll
CCP Spitfire wrote:
I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.


Glad after 3 months you finally started listening.

Too bad 3 months ago we were telling you what the problem was, the difference then, you thought everyone would get over it and "say but not do". Roll
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#132 - 2011-09-17 01:37:44 UTC
I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.
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Fix:

****** UI that leads to pod death easily / nerf remote sebo (its unresposive as **** at the minute)

slight nerf to angel ships

death to supercaps online

make client overhead lower so multiboxing is possible again (obviously in your best interests)

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lower clone costs to enabe more suicidal solo play in frigates for high skill point characters

old cyno effects

engine trails

ship spinning

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#133 - 2011-09-17 02:01:31 UTC
FiS should have highest priority of course.


If i where in charge of CCP i would concentrate on those things:
improve quality of existing features:
- every patch should contain at least one little improvement which fixes an existing usability problem (1000 papercuts theme)
- small stuff first! (examples: better LP shop UI, better HUD, try to reduce clicks, the obvious stuff!)
- try to get rid of all those windows which are currently needed for FiS, the only game which used so many windows was urban assault... from microsoft
- remember: making eve fun to use does not mean it will be less complex... just more fun

finish what has been started:
- add the other 3 CQs but don't start with "the door" until FiS is in better shape
- put a stomp on it with: done.. for now

next... fix game logic issues:
- why should a minmatar militia pilot be able to dock in the base station of the amar militia?
- ...

next... start with the larger (existing) issues:
- all those big impact balancing issues which are planned for the winter expansion, supercaps etc

in general:
- fix stuff, don't create new stuff which needs maintenance until the bugtracker is clean

marketing doesn't like that?
well, fire them if they don't like it. Imagine you would get another chance to get all those people who didn't manage to go through the trial because they hit all those issues above. Sell it that the most complex MMO out there is now fun to use and you will win.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#134 - 2011-09-17 02:16:45 UTC
"Fis" <-> "UI + corp tools" -> "carna as side project"

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Toni Kaye
Doomheim
#135 - 2011-09-17 02:46:42 UTC
WiS. I'm a new player and FiS is impossible to enjoy until I can skill up.

Apart from that, I am an absolute stunner and I want to meet handsome men, get drunk and play Pokeher.

See what I did there Roll

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Kirgan
Stranix Industrial Group
#136 - 2011-09-17 03:03:14 UTC
Fis absolutely
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
#137 - 2011-09-17 03:46:16 UTC
While I would like to see WiS finally finished, I'm definitely going with FiS as a priority.

FiS is why I play EVE, if I want to run around and say "look at me", there are other games to satisfy that fetish.

Now I've heard a few players say they would like to *** (walk on planets). I say only if I have the ability to bombard your ass from orbit. As an aside to that, I hope CCP gives us the ability to conduct orbital bombardments in Dust.

Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#138 - 2011-09-17 04:03:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Space ships over anything else.

If i fantasy hard enough i don't see split between "FIS"/"WIS" i just see brawl in a bar,hard core pvp while running toward ship and pwning some poor foot solder with howitzers from orbit at least that is what i heard and saw in fanfest video.

Instead we got performance hog minmatar fail cliche of rusty toilet room with TV in it.In era of space flight/cloning/immortality am disappoint much i expected retro/future look that is actually awesome not cheap/easiest to do.

NEX IS ABOMINATION that bypassed completely PI/economy/sandbox of EVE or in another words player involvement and killed last hope of WIS aspect of game going in right direction imho.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#139 - 2011-09-17 04:29:00 UTC
F.i.S. Lots of issues for a long, long time. It is, hands down, what most people are frustrated about. And by frustrated, I mean pull your hair out insane. Blink
kenxi
The Green Dollar
#140 - 2011-09-17 04:29:39 UTC
FIS we need new ships and not just high sp ones give the little guys something cool to.

P.S People like me will never get to us supercap so we really don't care till it gets hotdroped on us.

The % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons