EVE New Citizens Q&A

care to share some of those videos? some people do make some outrageous claims, but a lot of people also call bogus on stuff that is right, either they don't have the skills to pull it off or are trying to protect their income source.

mining is low income and boring, I advise heavily against it unless you enjoy it. mission running is where it is at for highsec. Exploration and running combat sites seems like it can be profitable with lower skills. Trading can be very good although I doubt there are many videos on it. If you are going to join a null sec group I assume they have some resources for dealing with the local rats.

with mission running the main goal is to blitz, aka warp in kill what is needed and run as many missions as possible in a short amount of time. loot and salvage prices are at rock bottom, it just isn't worth taking the time to try and loot or salvage for the most part. There are a few chances for a faction spawn, or structures that can drop implants/skill books and it can be worth it to check those. on the low end missions you will mostly be grinding standings and waiting for SP to move on to the next level.

this google doc has pretty much everything needed to know on high end mission blitzing it includes videos for the burner missions https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub

Hateless gaming did a burner playlist with the burners and did some voice over stuff https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrSHvDFStFwZDK0un-wAXfUrJ2sLIm7fT

eve is easy has a ton of stuff more geared to pvp, and a lot of it is geared to new players has a bunch of <20 day old character guides and now a few alpha ones too https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos

Chessur has a bunch of stuff focusing on small gang pvp with lots of instruction on manual piloting https://www.youtube.com/user/ChessurSB/videos

What else to link than my favorite EvE-video of ever?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLdYVELWrQ

It falls into the "general stuff like that" category.

The available videos are good, there are some capsuleer requiremens.

I can add few ISK income ways which people above didn’t mentioned 😊 by some reasons:

1. Warfare (I can’t bind this to traditional ratting or mission farming due to it mechanic. It’s better to have an ALT for this);

2. Scamming (which can be in many and many forms);

3. Market speculation and manipulation (which is one of the most hidden and shadow ISK-making in game technology. No one will tell you their secrets);

4. Suicide ganking (no need in explanation. Can be performed on a cheap T1 destroyer and even alpha clones can do it);

5. “Gank the gankers” (it’s a nasty one which I discovered not so long ago. The point is to get a ship with many guns, a destroyer, and to target and shot gankers as many as possible before CONCORD will blow them up just to get their 20% bounty bonus. The point is the pirates have nice bounty on their heads. If you're engaged in battle with a target and he self-destructs or is killed by CONCORD, you'll still get the bounty. Since the 'final blow' wasn't dealt by a hunter, the hunter who inflicted the most damage will receive the bounty.);

6. Incursion salvaging as an uncommon way for salvaging (got the guide link yesterday from Padegejas, but I heard about this time ago);

7. R&D missions (it’s an uncommon kind of missions which requires some marketing, delivering, crafting, traveling all in one. Not so popular after last nerf).

I did most of the professions, posted by erghrhhgh above, and they have their limits which not many players want to spend time to explain and point you. I can notice something for you. Depending by your skill level and your location on map the solo profession can be profitable or completely unprofitably, it can be interesting or completely boring and annoying. For all new players and alpha clones the expecting ISK/hour should be under 15M, for mid-grade players the profit can vary between 20M and 100M ISK/hour, for advanced hi-end players – from 150M ISK/hour. Somebody making over 1B in 2-3 hours. It requires a Null-Sec 8-10 DED grinding and salvaging with a carrier, C5 or C6 WH ratting and salvaging with a subcapital ship, Null-Sec Rorqual mining with 2 or 3 ALT Hulks. There are others even more profitable sources which requires even more skill and involved players like Incursions, Moon mining (so called “The Game of Moons”) and other null-sec alliance stuff.

The access order when a profession become profitable and somehow more interesting:

1. Exploration/hacking, PI, warfare, Incursion salvaging, abandoned drone farming. Level 3 skills are ok to perform them. They can be performed on a T1 frigate or destroyer. You can learn all required skills in a week.

2. Exploraion/combat, missions, simple L4 mission salvaging only. Requires Level 4 skills to respective skills with few level 5 skills. A month of skill training.

3. Mining, simple industry/production, complexes, ratting, salvaging, R&D. Requires some skills to level 5 just to unlock a ship or a technology. For example, to be good on mining in high-sec you need to use barges and to use parallel production a level 5 Industry skill is required. Manufacture consumables and rigs only. It’s time for DED 4-7 and WH C2 or C3 ratting. Few months of skill training.

4. Gas cloud harvesting, advanced industry/production, trading, ice mining, station trading, scamming and speculation. These professions require many skills to level 5 or very good knowledge about in game mechanics, good planning and strategy. Gas harvesting is profitable in WH C4 and above, which isn’t a joke. Advanced industry requires T2 BPO/BPC – a lot of investment into research, ME and invention and a lot of level 5 skills! To be good on trading you must know the goods market very well, you need to inject many billions into economy, a lot of marketing skills, you need a freighter and you must to wait months before money will start come back to you. It’s hard to make good ISK on market without a huge amount of sell/buy operations under lowered fees. Without this you’ll make more ISK from lvl 3 missions. You need an exhumer or a T2 mining frigate to mine ice for profitable ISK/hour and a bounce of mining skills. Over a year.


5. Burning missions, capital mining, C4, C5 and C6 ratting and exploration, null-sec Incursions. Requires a lot of skills developed to level 5 and very good knowledge about some in game tricks. Shortly, I’ll not advise you to bring a dreadnought to a C6 WH, having minimal skills to it and without knowledge about how to fly safe there… this stuff if just impossible to solo perform for any new players.

Note! The professions posted above are not profitable if you try to do ‘em in other order than above. For example, most of high-sec or low-sec gas sites contains a very cheap gas which is very hard to sell often. You’ll make much more money mining Veldspar than gas in high-sec, considering you need to pay 24M ISK for the gas harvesting book. WH gas harvesting requires more skills and knowledge.
You can change the order a bit if you’ll specialize into some profession, but the general concept will remain the same. Low level Exploration is better than low level Mining, at the same time the low-level Mining is much better than low level Salvaging and the low-level Salvaging is more profitable than low level Marketing and finally the low-level Marketing will be more profitable than burning missions just because you’ll not 100% lost low mastered ships.

Anyway, to play EVE just for ISK/hour is just a wrong way to play the game.