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Admiral Kroma
Weaponized Space Karens
Sigma Grindset
#1 - 2017-05-17 05:10:56 UTC
Do Missions pay out and LP varies with where the agent is located?

example : .7 .8 .9 systems pay lower isk and LP versus .4 .5 .6.....is there any difference of pay and LP by location?
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#2 - 2017-05-17 06:14:19 UTC
Yeah, the lower sec-status the system where the agent is, the more isk and lp the missions pay.
guigui lechat
the no fock given
#3 - 2017-05-17 07:53:42 UTC
the security multiplier is (2-truesec).
Truesec can be found eg on dotlan, or in the SDE of eve.
The multiplier impacts both LP and isk reward of mission from the agent, based solely on the system of the agent (the destination is not used)

I think truesec does not impact bounties of rats, nor drops.

example of comparison :
Lannsigi ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Lanngisi ) will give you *1.54 rewards.
Osmon ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Osmon ) will give you *1.32 reward.
Moving from osmon to lanngisi will net you +16% of your hourly rewards, based on this truesec multiplier.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2017-05-17 17:22:34 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
There's a 10% increase in mission reward for each 0.1 difference of system security level from 1.0 down to 0.0 per Agent location which is then increased by each trained level of Negotiation skill.

I don't know if the amount of LP's offered per mission is based on the same principle. I think the mission LP amount is actually set as a base amount for each mission which is then increased per each trained level of the Agent Division 'Connections' skills.


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guigui lechat
the no fock given
#5 - 2017-05-17 17:30:06 UTC
I can confirm the LP is reward is increased by the truesec.
This is one of the reasons lannsigi is prefered to osmon.
Muffinmixer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2017-05-18 13:25:32 UTC
guigui lechat wrote:
the security multiplier is (2-truesec).
Truesec can be found eg on dotlan, or in the SDE of eve.
The multiplier impacts both LP and isk reward of mission from the agent, based solely on the system of the agent (the destination is not used)

I think truesec does not impact bounties of rats, nor drops.

example of comparison :
Lannsigi ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Lanngisi ) will give you *1.54 rewards.
Osmon ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Osmon ) will give you *1.32 reward.
Moving from osmon to lanngisi will net you +16% of your hourly rewards, based on this truesec multiplier.


Correct, trusec does not affect rat bounties and has no discernible effect on loot either. Burner rats are worth exactly the same in 1.0, 0.5, and null-sec.

Also, in case people are wondering, mission rewards DO scale with negative trusec as well. Some example LP handouts for Burner missions with Security Connections V:

K3JR-J (Venal, -0.14) -> 21,589 LP
N5Y-4N (Venal, -0.25) -> 22,784 LP

guigui lechat wrote:
I can confirm the LP is reward is increased by the truesec.
This is one of the reasons lannsigi is prefered to osmon.


Well, there's also the fact that Lanngisi is in a very good "dead-end" constellation, so mission sites from the agents have a much more limited spread.
guigui lechat
the no fock given
#7 - 2017-05-19 06:05:16 UTC
What is the constraint range for L4 ? some burners made me do 6 jumps, passing thtough one constellation, so I guess it is "same region" ?
I'd like to know, when looking at a system on map, how far can an agent in that system send me and what is the probability to have to go through low sec.
Muffinmixer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-05-19 14:19:07 UTC
guigui lechat wrote:
What is the constraint range for L4 ? some burners made me do 6 jumps, passing thtough one constellation, so I guess it is "same region" ?
I'd like to know, when looking at a system on map, how far can an agent in that system send me and what is the probability to have to go through low sec.


Mission sites can be placed in the NPC Agent's current constellation or the next one(s) directly connected to that constellation. After that, the actual number of jumps a mission site can be from the NPC agent's home system is decided by the mission's value.

The cheapest missions like Recon 1-3 will ~always~ take place in the NPC agent's home system, while slightly more valuable missions like Cargo Delivery will take place in-system or one system over. Max value missions like Burners can take place virtually anywhere within the current constellation or next constellation(s) over, which is why so-called "dead-end" constellations are ideal for burners (you only need to deal with 2 constellations in terms of possible coverage).

Beyond mission-value, you also have some weirder mechanics like:

- How negative in security status a potential system is vs. the Agent's home system will very drastically affect (but not entirely eliminate) the probability of mission sites being placed in that system. So if your hisec NPC home system is right next to Nullsec, don't worry too much because you should very rarely get missions in nullsec thanks to this mechanic.

- Some systems have an intrinsically higher chance of harboring mission sites vs. other systems. I have no idea what factors determine which systems are more popular than others, partly because with every major 3-4 month patch all these probabilities change.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#9 - 2017-05-19 17:34:53 UTC
guigui lechat wrote:
What is the constraint range for L4 ? some burners made me do 6 jumps, passing thtough one constellation, so I guess it is "same region" ?
I'd like to know, when looking at a system on map, how far can an agent in that system send me and what is the probability to have to go through low sec.

burners typically go to the next constellation, in laangisi the next constellation is a trade hub so the mission tries to avoid going through that system so they typically end up in constellation, however there is a small chance they end up 4-5 jumps away in Bei or Ragnarg

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guigui lechat
the no fock given
#10 - 2017-05-19 18:54:12 UTC
4-5 is what I typically had. plus some 6 jumps (I can confirm that). also they were not limited to next constellation but could also go in the one after.
Sometimes I also had burners in system.

edit : I was not in lannsigi.
guigui lechat
the no fock given
#11 - 2017-05-20 18:33:38 UTC
I just had a burner 9 jumps away. Into LS … my route was set to "shortest" not safest.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#12 - 2017-05-21 16:52:47 UTC
guigui lechat wrote:
I just had a burner 9 jumps away. Into LS … my route was set to "shortest" not safest.

there are a few pipe constellations where it can get silly like that. Check otu this one I just found, you could do 7 jumps and not leave the constelalation http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Solitude/Orvanne

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guigui lechat
the no fock given
#13 - 2017-05-21 20:38:56 UTC  |  Edited by: guigui lechat
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
guigui lechat wrote:
I just had a burner 9 jumps away. Into LS … my route was set to "shortest" not safest.

there are a few pipe constellations where it can get silly like that. Check otu this one I just found, you could do 7 jumps and not leave the constelalation http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Solitude/Orvanne


well. this one was actually in a different region. (from aclan to schoorasana )

so I guess the burners can actually be in a different region.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2017-05-21 22:24:32 UTC
Oh yea, heck the osmon agent can send you to nullsec

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