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New Names for Speed Boost Mods (MWD + AB)
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Aphatasis
Free Carpenters Union
#1 - 2012-01-23 18:27:11 UTC
Because i'm very very tired after a very long workday i'll just crosspost my reply from a german forum, hoping someone will plz translate it for me.

Quote:
1MN
AB: T1 -> Limited 1MN Afterburner I -> Experimental 1MN Afterburner -> T2
MWD: T1 -> Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I -> Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I -> T2

10MN
AB: T1 -> Experimental 10MN Afterburner I -> T2
MWD: T1 -> Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I -> T2

100MN
AB: T1 -> Experimental 100MN Afterburner I -> T2
MWD: T1 -> Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I -> T2

Voll fürn Arsch! Klar es ist einheitlich jetzt im bezug auf die Meta Level und die Namensgebung, aber durch die ganze Breite betrachtet pissts voll an!
Best Named MWDs: Bei 1MN isses der Limited, bei 10MN isses der Experimental, bei 100mn isses der Prototype

Wäre halt schön gewesen wenn CCP hergegangen wäre und gleich auch die Meta-Level inline gebracht hätte, dann wüßte man dass z.B. der Experimental immer der best Named MWD ist und dann vllt auch gleich die ABs auch dazu inline gebracht!
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-23 19:15:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Takeshi Yamato
Right. I checked this on SiSi and there is indeed a problem.

The names DO reflect the meta level of the modules. Technically there is no problem with that. Meta level tags are as follows for both afterburners and MWDs:

Meta 0: I
Meta 1: Upgraded
Meta 2: Limited
Meta 3: Experimental
Meta 4: Prototype
Meta 5: II


However there are too many meta levels and there is no consistency in meta levels. This makes it confusing and the system, in this particular case, fails to achieve more simplicity.

1mn MWD has a meta 1 and meta 2 version
10mn MWD has a meta 3 version
100mn MWD has a meta 4 version.

1mn AB has a meta 2 and 3 version
10mn AB has a meta 3 version
100mn AB has a meta 3 version

The meta 1,2,3 and 4 MWDs only difference from the Tech 1 version in capacitor penalty and that penalty is the same (19%) for meta 2,3 and 4.

In practice what the player cares about is distinguishing between "best named" and "second best named". Therefore the "best named" and "second best named" should both be of the same meta level across all sizes of both ABs and MWDs.
Aphatasis
Free Carpenters Union
#3 - 2012-01-23 19:55:15 UTC
Thx Takeshi Yamato!
Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#4 - 2012-01-23 21:27:04 UTC
"Limited" would make more sense for Meta 1.
ResearchBunny Agnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-25 13:16:45 UTC
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
In practice what the player cares about is distinguishing between "best named" and "second best named". Therefore the "best named" and "second best named" should both be of the same meta level across all sizes of both ABs and MWDs.

Signed, signed and signed - the new names aren't any more of a simplification, they're still needlessly over-complicated. Rationalize the meta levels so that all the MWD/AB have a commonly named "best-named" and second best named and renaming everything makes sense.

Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
"Limited" would make more sense for Meta 1.

Also signed, having "limited" be better than "upgraded" is just bizarre. Honestly, this makes more sense:

meta 1 - Limited
meta 2 - Experimental
meta 3 - Prototype
meta 4 - Upgraded

It's clear that "Limited" isn't as good as "Upgraded" and that an experimental drive is probably not as good as a prototype (ie, on the way to production.)

In short, the new meta names are just as senseless as before, there are just fewer of them. If you want to confuse people less you might as well just name the drives

I
I m1
I m2
I m3
I m4

Then they at least aren't confusing.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-01-25 20:39:05 UTC
Yes. Ideally, we'd see it so that the best named AB/MWD across all size classes had the same meta level (either meta2 or meta4).
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-25 21:23:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Takeshi Yamato
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:
Yes. Ideally, we'd see it so that the best named AB/MWD across all size classes had the same meta level (either meta2 or meta4).


The fewest steps to this would be

100mn MWD
Meta 4 -> Meta 3

1mn MWD
Meta 1 -> Meta 2
Meta 2 -> Meta 3

So this is what I'd recommend.