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Current issues in regard to Character transfer and Plex

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Jahweh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-05-10 09:46:39 UTC
I would like to know the position of our CSM council in regard to the issues with not being able to use Plex for Character Transfers.

Is it really a difficult issue with the new Plex and when will it be solved.

I really dislike the lack of response from CCP!!!
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2017-05-10 22:31:58 UTC
CCP haven't shared a time to fix with us, just that it's a technical issue (yes, it's more complicated than turning a 2 into a 1000. the underlying systems have changed)

It's obviously something which we'd like to see resolved, with the option returning.

For my own curiosity, is your query to do with it being something you're wanting to do in the near future, or just because it's an option which isn't currently available?

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Jahweh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-05-11 10:19:58 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
CCP haven't shared a time to fix with us, just that it's a technical issue (yes, it's more complicated than turning a 2 into a 1000. the underlying systems have changed)

It's obviously something which we'd like to see resolved, with the option returning.

For my own curiosity, is your query to do with it being something you're wanting to do in the near future, or just because it's an option which isn't currently available?


Thank you for your response, I respect that.

Reason i am asking is; i use the transfer a character for plex option Always and i use it several times per year.
It is a part of my gaming style which i enjoy immensly.
I buy stripped or build up characters from scratch and sell them when they are usefull for certain tasks.
CCP took away a large chunk of the fun to play EVE and for that matter the way CCP did this made me very very angry.
Not informing people with a propper time and implementing a gamechanging issue in a sneaky way is not how CCP should behave towards the players.
I hope you guys (the CSM) can help us (many are angry and dissapointed in the way CCP handles this issue).

Thx for the good work.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#4 - 2017-05-11 13:29:55 UTC
No problem. part of what I'm here for.

Just to be clear, this isn't really CCP implementing a game change. It's CCP _not_ doing something, which I suspect affects a small number of people (I'm not downplaying how much it affects those people. I just suspect it's a small number of people) before they roll out something which affects a far larger people.

Same effect, but a different mind set. One is active 'I'll take this away', one is more passive 'I won't block the deployment, and we'll get to it later'

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mkint
#5 - 2017-05-11 14:06:45 UTC
Maybe the back end code is an even bigger charlie foxtrot than I thought, but shouldn't it be pretty easy to add a "character transfer certificate" item to the game, point character transfer code at that item ID instead of the plex ID, and then sell it in the $ store? No need to rewrite the code to accept nuplex, just point it at a different item. Might be considered a temporary fix, but unless the code is way way worse than I thought, it should be pretty easy to add an item to a couple databases. This smells more like not giving a rat's ass than it being too hard.

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Jahweh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-05-11 21:10:32 UTC
mkint wrote:
Maybe the back end code is an even bigger charlie foxtrot than I thought, but shouldn't it be pretty easy to add a "character transfer certificate" item to the game, point character transfer code at that item ID instead of the plex ID, and then sell it in the $ store? No need to rewrite the code to accept nuplex, just point it at a different item. Might be considered a temporary fix, but unless the code is way way worse than I thought, it should be pretty easy to add an item to a couple databases. This smells more like not giving a rat's ass than it being too hard.


Good point, i like it.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#7 - 2017-05-12 00:47:37 UTC
It's more complicated than that.

(There are many simple solutions to hard problems. which don't work)

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#8 - 2017-05-12 11:07:59 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
It's more complicated than that.

(There are many simple solutions to hard problems. which don't work)

"For every complex problem there's a solution that is clear, simple and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken

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Jin'taan
Death Squad Sektor B
Paper Numbers
#9 - 2017-05-14 15:46:01 UTC
Jahweh wrote:
I would like to know the position of our CSM council in regard to the issues with not being able to use Plex for Character Transfers.

Is it really a difficult issue with the new Plex and when will it be solved.

I really dislike the lack of response from CCP!!!


In terms of positions on the subject, I don't think (they can correct me if I'm wrong) anyone is in favour of this change, and the majority of us have talked to CCP about it.

Personally I believe CCP on the technical side of this as I have no reason to mistrust them, but I honestly feel this is something that should have been feature critical to the nuPlex transition. It takes something that's an in-game function and makes it for RL cash only, which doesn't really mesh with the overall design of EvE (not to mention the interests of the players), and as such it's something I have actively pushed against.
Buggs LeRoach
DHCOx
#10 - 2017-05-21 14:13:33 UTC
could be ccp response to the 'ghost training' bug ? watch and see if ghost training and char. sales using plex are both fixed at the same time ..
Ann Eyvarsdottir
The Darwin Initiative
#11 - 2017-05-23 13:15:23 UTC
But getting things sorted for the AT Plex mechanism was a breeze ... Cool