Crime & Punishment

I give the OP credit here. At least this isn't one of the all too common "I just got ganked by CODE, it's not fair, CCP should nerf all the rules that don't support my chosen play style" threads.

Wouldn't it be great if we could just get people to read and apply the information presented. Now that would be something special.

Respectfully Submitted.

lol

The way to beat CODE. is to educate people so that they actively play the game, and know how the game works. The tools are already there to almost completely negate the already minuscule risk of getting ganked, making yourself a harder target than the next guy by using them generally means they'll shoot the next guy instead.

For example encourage miners to mine in groups of Procurers if gankers are in town, only one thing deters would be gankers more than a Procurer ball of drone death waiting for them, and that's a Skiff ball of drone death waiting for them.

The people that die to CODE. generally weren't paying attention, or they made themselves an easy or desirable target.

People should be doing most of what they preach anyway. It's a PvP game after all.

In a PvP game, especially one like Eve with full loot mechanics, it should be obvious that flying eleventy billion isk in a cargo tanked ship across the universe in a game where other people can and will kill you in order to take it off of you is a bad idea, afk or not.

It should be common sense to set standings towards the "bad guys" of Eve so that they're bloody obvious in local, to use d-scan while mining or missioning when the aforementioned bad guys are in local, to not go afk, to not shoot at suspects while in your blingy mission ship, etc, etc.

CCP would beg to differ, and so would I.

TL;DR Everything is PvP, the PvE is both there to enable PvP and in itself is a form of passive PvP.

My, you are salty aren't you, what did you lose due to your own carelessness?

If you can't accept that you consent to PvP everytime that you log in to a PvP game, maybe you should stop playing PvP games; maybe a nice farm or truck simulator is more your speed.

FYI I pay for this game too, I too abstain from violencing other people's spaceships. Instead my PvP is selling them new ones when someone else violences them.

I do rat, mine and build, and I do it in the full knowledge that somebody might try and kill me whilst doing so, part of the "job" is making sure that doesn't happen.

Everything I get from doing so ends up on the market, which is most certainly PvP

CODE exists for two reasons.
The first is to have fun.
The second is to educate.

I've played for years as well, Argyle.


And I'll be seeing you very soon.

Hello there.

... under pile of "[MERC]" threads because they don't get their own forum.


But it's a trolling thread probably by a CODE. alt anyway so they can stay relevant. I give it a Like for the attempt either way.

(I'll even like posts I don't agree with just for the effort that goes into it)

Removed post and those quoting it for the above reason.

1. ISD's do not get paid. Although I do enjoy a dank meme or two.

2. There is only one authority in this game, my friend, and that is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived.

trying is for bads
I prefer doing and succeeding ;)

They don't always use Catalysts. Thrashers are common too.

You know, it really grinds my gears when minmaxers yowl at me and accuse me of badfits because "blah blah ship strength pigeonhole pigeonhole pigeonhole". One of the players I supplied the procurer fits to came back to personally thank me after he used it repeatedly in lowsec to the point of making at least one ganker raqequit. Look at the jamming strength: all ewar focused on a single target gives you a minimum of 8.8 points of ECM. Add the amplifier and some skill enhancements and you can get up to 12 points or more which can be spread across multiple targets if needed. That is not a bad fit, that is you being ridiculously inflexible and refusing to get creative. Indeed, I have lost many ships, many of them badly fit, but I learned from those fits. I learned that racial bonuses are not the be all and end all of ship fitting. I learned that many EVE players are either clueless about module stats or completely rigid in their thought and design. I learned that such cluelessness/rigidity is exploitable. And thus, the ewar Procurer was born.

'Godlike shield tank' won't save a miner because CODE fits their destroyers for maximum alpha damage rather than DPS; they know they will only get off maybe a dozen volleys at most before they are concorddokkened, so they sacrifice every other attribute to make those shots count. Successfully jamming a ganker shuts down their targetting scanners AND KEEPS THEM FROM TACKLING, SCRAMMING OR SHOOTING. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.

And with this short sentence you have proved that you have precisely zero idea of what you're talking about.

I'd like to see the fit of the alpha damage destroyer that gets off a dozen volleys before Concord roll up

CODE.'s destroyer fits are generally geared towards DPS, they mainly use blaster fit Catalysts because the ship bonuses and weapons choice offer the most bang for buck when compared to other destroyers due to the raw damage output and high rate of fire; this enables 10-12 shots to be fired before Concordokken occurs.

Destroyer fits geared towards alpha damage tend to be fitted with artillery and the like, each individual salvo punches out more damage than blasters, but the slower rate of fire means that they only get off 2 or 3 shots before Concord ruin the fun.

Know thy enemy before spouting shite about them.

So does not being there when they appear.