EVE General Discussion

He can speak for himself, but for me it's the whole idea of an artificial ceiling. PLEX should cost what people in game will pay for it, because EVE has a PLAYER RUN economy and that should not change because you want cheap PLEX to keep from hainvg to spend the 50 cents USD per day it takes to play EVE.

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Everytime Plex changes you get these crazy examples of how 'off' and 'entitled' some EVE players are. You got people sitting on hundreds of billions of isk and assets loudly proclaiming that they are cutting back on EVE because of the price of plex, you get freak outs all over the place, "the plex is too damn high" memes on reddit, and all of this over an ingame item that right now costs 46 million isk per day per account

One of my characters flying an Ishtar and doing anomalies makes 60 mil isk in an hour of me barely watching the screen. A Carrier in null take s more work but makes money 3+ times faster than that ishtar. If you live in high sec and get set up right, following this burner mission guide will let you buy 720 hours (one month) of game time in exchange for 7.2 hours of game play.

Thats right, 1% of a month for a full month of video game...because you're too cheap to spend 50 real life cents per day (the actual cost of EVE online at it's most expensive month by month rate) for said video game. Hell, 46 mil isk per day is like 2 or 3 lvl 4 missions and then selling the lp for something cheap like 500 isk per LP...

You guys telling me that 2 or 3 lvl 4 missions (5-15 minutes if you learn how to blitz) a day is somehow a bridge too far for 24 hours worth of game time?

I think some folks need to reexamine their priorities and their perspectives, because something in there is screwed up if plex prices are bothering you.

i agrree with both points. If u have many characteres, high sec is the option for some, and not grind more in nul..

And the price will go higher and higher and higher, because they will get more and more and more ISK, and they will buy more and more and more PLEX, that will cost more and more and more ISK.

Untill price willl level out on a ridiculous level that will basically make people watch it and tell: what did I become? What happened to my life? Why?

PLEX for new players are so that they can acquire ISK without the horrible grind, not to play for "free".

Why is it every EVE player gets opportunity cost when it comes to "I mine my own minerals" but totally fail in applying that logic everywhere else?

Well then, you might as well quit now if that's going to be your redline...because the price of PLEX is not going to go in a downward direction (has it ever over time?)
I'd love to have your stuff since you won't be needing it.

Yes, because not having any PLEX is sooo much better.

Please don't go full idiot.

I certainly agree that paying with PLEX is not playing for free.

But I'm of two minds about comparing paying with grinding in real life or paying with grinding in game. It really depends on how much you enjoy whatever it is you do to collect that ISK. For instance, I'd rather run missions or whatever for a day than pull an extra shift shoveling **** at the zoo.

On the other hand, I'd rather work a few hours overtime giving erotic massages than sitting in an ice belt spamming d-scan for two solid days.

I guess what I'm saying is it's not such a good comparison when it's so situational. You can't really generalize.

Mr Epeen

I don't have multiple in game income streams, I enjoy ratting and doing complexes. Sometimes after plexing I might have like 2-300 mil in my wallet, or less. People think I'm rich but the in game value thing says my 5 accounts amount to less than 25 billion isk after 10 years of playing (because I spend isk like its going out of style and i blow up a lot).

The difference between me and folks like me and the people who lose their damn minds every time something happens with plex is that I KNOW plex is a luxury and act accordingly. I know it's only going to go up while my ratting income stays the same (or declines like with DED loot)

Because I know plex is unstable and a luxury I don't own more accounts than I could pay for with real life cash if something happens to PLEX. Right at the moment I can plop down the 60 bucks it would take to keep my accounts in Omega, and if something happened where I could not do that, regardless of the cost of plex I'd start shedding accounts. That's how i personally do it and I don't expect anyone else to, but it's damn stupid to depend on plex when you know it's not stable.

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There is , of course, a real life correlation that comes to mind. 22 years ago I worked at a County Jail. The jail didn't have enough jailers, so there was plenty of overtime. Too much in fact. Jailers were working doubles (16 hours) and even TRIPLES (24 hours) before the overtime policy changed due to one jailer falling dead from a heart attack he suffered while working his 2nd triple in one week.

In the orientation class the instructor said "there will be lots of overtime, but never forget that OT is a luxury, it's extra money, it lets you pay off bills faster and maybe pay for a better vacation than what you had last year. But it is not your salary, you are not entitled to it, the County can come in at any moment and cut it off, and it's automatically gets cut off if you take sick leave or come under investigation for something. Do not ever let yourself become dependent on it."

Most people listened. But some didn't. Some used it to buy nice cars, big ass trucks (it's Texas of course), fancy things, jewelry, even a bigger house than what they could normally afford...

...Then OF COURSE the County decided it was spending too much money and hired more jailers since that is less expensive than overtime. And it all came crashing down. Within a couple months the department had to station a Deputy at the employee parking lot to keep all the repo trucks out. People lost their nice homes they should never have bought. And fights broke out between veteran jailers and recruit jailers, because of course it was the new recruits' fault the vet jailers grew dependent on overtime they were told to not become dependent on. The department's employee mental health section got swamped by people in crisis because they couldn't pay their bills and/or their significant other was threatening to leave with the kids (or worse, with the big ass truck).

That taught me a lesson: don't live above my means, and don't depend on a luxury something that can go away or change at a moments notice for essential needs.

Apply that to EVE and plex and I bet some of yall will be less upset the next time the plex prices change.

This thread just took an interesting turn...

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