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The Sack of Romi

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#121 - 2017-05-18 18:57:49 UTC
Rias Bane wrote:
Is that a request for diplomatic support or Military support? Answer the question less of the rhetoric.

You can read , we were flat out refused both.
He wasent even bothred to ask them why.

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rex largo
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#122 - 2017-05-18 18:59:45 UTC
"pirat doesn't need us" could it be any more clear?
G3neral D3stRuCtion
X---FORCE
#123 - 2017-05-18 19:05:00 UTC
Hooray for Devil's! Go Go Go!
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#124 - 2017-05-18 19:09:52 UTC
rex largo wrote:
"pirat doesn't need us" could it be any more clear?


That is a matter of interpretation..where intent and context is lost in text as opposed to speaking with someone. It can be taken many ways..you chose to take it one way as many will see it differently. Either way..it goes back to the point of "why was there a structure in alliance".

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#125 - 2017-05-18 19:11:25 UTC
Deep Blue with P I R A T?

That's shitter talk.

I don't like shitters.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#126 - 2017-05-18 19:12:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
rex largo wrote:
"pirat doesn't need us" could it be any more clear?


That is a matter of interpretation..where intent and context is lost in text as opposed to speaking with someone. It can be taken many ways..you chose to take it one way as many will see it differently. Either way..it goes back to the point of "why was there a structure in alliance".

No it isnt.
Its extreamy clear.

And context only adds to that clarity.

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Khromius
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#127 - 2017-05-18 19:16:27 UTC
rex largo wrote:



[20:26:54] Khromius > o/
[20:26:59] Lord Razpataz > hey
[20:27:11] Khromius > pirat say they want your fort gone
[20:27:21] Khromius > i can't control them mate i'm sory
[20:27:27] Lord Razpataz > any particular reason for it?
[20:27:32] Khromius > didn't ask
[20:27:44] Khromius > something about them being tired of devils
[20:28:55] Lord Razpataz > so they want to disband us? cant be more inactive :P
[20:34:02] Khromius > honestly mate i don't know
[20:34:46] Lord Razpataz > kk, I'm guessing you guys will stay out of this?
[20:36:15] Khromius > of course
[20:36:21] Khromius > pirat doesn't need us
[20:39:05] Lord Razpataz > was thinking more the other way, we need you
[20:49:41] Lord Razpataz > but yeah, I understand.
[20:49:50] Lord Razpataz > I need to go, RL is calling
[20:49:59] Khromius > we're deep blue with PIRAT
[20:50:14] Khromius > we won't be sticking our nose in one way or another
[20:50:32] Lord Razpataz > rgr
[20:50:47] Lord Razpataz > cya around o/

looks to me like we just asked for help....



You're a gang of whiny babies. What "merc" group puts up an in house Fortizar in hisec and then goes all but inactive? Leaving Ralph King-Griffin of all people to troll the forum threads of other merc groups in your absence... If it weren't for our blue standings I would have gone after your assets a long time ago based on the diarrhea that this guy posts on the forums. PIRAT then decide they've had enough of you and move to remove your space toys so you come to me asking for help. I tell you that I'm blue to both sides and will not get involved, meanwhile thinking in the back of my head "About time Ralph gets a boot in his ass". Why would I stick my nose in to save your assets when you clearly don't care about them yourselves? Why would I ruin a great relationship with PIRAT for a group of guys who don't even play the game anymore save for a guy that annoys the **** out me? You little crybabies need to grow up and take ownership of your space lives and actions.
Rias Bane
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#128 - 2017-05-18 19:18:43 UTC
What I said was ask you leadership...what you have done is make an arbitrary interpretation of intent based on a conversation without context when written down, and with no objectivity, if You wish I could give you an interpretation of the statement regarding need to help PIRAT may indicate that Khrom's concerns were that PIRAT principally were at risk from you but is confident of their ability to handle it.

It does not matter how you spin this, we did what we said what we would do which was not intervene.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#129 - 2017-05-18 19:21:25 UTC
Rias Bane wrote:
What I said was ask you leadership...what you have done is make an arbitrary interpretation of intent based on a conversation without context when written down, and with no objectivity, if You wish I could give you an interpretation of the statement regarding need to help PIRAT may indicate that Khrom's concerns were that PIRAT principally were at risk from you but is confident of their ability to handle it.

It does not matter how you spin this, we did what we said what we would do which was not intervene.

Probably should have read your bosses post before posting that

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G3neral D3stRuCtion
X---FORCE
#130 - 2017-05-18 19:30:56 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Rias Bane wrote:
What I said was ask you leadership...what you have done is make an arbitrary interpretation of intent based on a conversation without context when written down, and with no objectivity, if You wish I could give you an interpretation of the statement regarding need to help PIRAT may indicate that Khrom's concerns were that PIRAT principally were at risk from you but is confident of their ability to handle it.

It does not matter how you spin this, we did what we said what we would do which was not intervene.

Probably should have read your bosses post before posting that


That is pretty funny lmao. Rias is just talking out the ass.
Rias Bane
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#131 - 2017-05-18 19:36:15 UTC
lol that's a conversation killer
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#132 - 2017-05-18 19:37:19 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Rias Bane wrote:
What I said was ask you leadership...what you have done is make an arbitrary interpretation of intent based on a conversation without context when written down, and with no objectivity, if You wish I could give you an interpretation of the statement regarding need to help PIRAT may indicate that Khrom's concerns were that PIRAT principally were at risk from you but is confident of their ability to handle it.

It does not matter how you spin this, we did what we said what we would do which was not intervene.

Probably should have read your bosses post before posting that


I think Khrom's post was an "after the fact" opinion.

Too much whining,,c'mon guys..really..

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
G3neral D3stRuCtion
X---FORCE
#133 - 2017-05-18 19:39:11 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Rias Bane wrote:
What I said was ask you leadership...what you have done is make an arbitrary interpretation of intent based on a conversation without context when written down, and with no objectivity, if You wish I could give you an interpretation of the statement regarding need to help PIRAT may indicate that Khrom's concerns were that PIRAT principally were at risk from you but is confident of their ability to handle it.

It does not matter how you spin this, we did what we said what we would do which was not intervene.

Probably should have read your bosses post before posting that


I think Khrom's post was an "after the fact" opinion.

Too much whining,,c'mon guys..really..


I somehow doubt that...hmm
Valkin Mordirc
#134 - 2017-05-18 20:05:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
Khromius wrote:



You're a gang of whiny babies. What "merc" group puts up an in house Fortizar in hisec and then goes all but inactive? Leaving Ralph King-Griffin of all people to troll the forum threads of other merc groups in your absence... If it weren't for our blue standings I would have gone after your assets a long time ago based on the diarrhea that this guy posts on the forums. PIRAT then decide they've had enough of you and move to remove your space toys so you come to me asking for help. I tell you that I'm blue to both sides and will not get involved, meanwhile thinking in the back of my head "About time Ralph gets a boot in his ass". Why would I stick my nose in to save your assets when you clearly don't care about them yourselves? Why would I ruin a great relationship with PIRAT for a group of guys who don't even play the game anymore save for a guy that annoys the **** out me? You little crybabies need to grow up and take ownership of your space lives and actions.



Posts like these really make me wonder why you and seeger don't get along

Edit: Also thank you for proving ralph's point. And congrats to ralph for getting khrom to post more then a single sentence.
#DeleteTheWeak
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#135 - 2017-05-18 20:09:06 UTC
Khromius wrote:
rex largo wrote:



[20:26:54] Khromius > o/
[20:26:59] Lord Razpataz > hey
[20:27:11] Khromius > pirat say they want your fort gone
[20:27:21] Khromius > i can't control them mate i'm sory
[20:27:27] Lord Razpataz > any particular reason for it?
[20:27:32] Khromius > didn't ask
[20:27:44] Khromius > something about them being tired of devils
[20:28:55] Lord Razpataz > so they want to disband us? cant be more inactive :P
[20:34:02] Khromius > honestly mate i don't know
[20:34:46] Lord Razpataz > kk, I'm guessing you guys will stay out of this?
[20:36:15] Khromius > of course
[20:36:21] Khromius > pirat doesn't need us
[20:39:05] Lord Razpataz > was thinking more the other way, we need you
[20:49:41] Lord Razpataz > but yeah, I understand.
[20:49:50] Lord Razpataz > I need to go, RL is calling
[20:49:59] Khromius > we're deep blue with PIRAT
[20:50:14] Khromius > we won't be sticking our nose in one way or another
[20:50:32] Lord Razpataz > rgr
[20:50:47] Lord Razpataz > cya around o/

looks to me like we just asked for help....



You're a gang of whiny babies. What "merc" group puts up an in house Fortizar in hisec and then goes all but inactive? Leaving Ralph King-Griffin of all people to troll the forum threads of other merc groups in your absence... If it weren't for our blue standings I would have gone after your assets a long time ago based on the diarrhea that this guy posts on the forums. PIRAT then decide they've had enough of you and move to remove your space toys so you come to me asking for help. I tell you that I'm blue to both sides and will not get involved, meanwhile thinking in the back of my head "About time Ralph gets a boot in his ass". Why would I stick my nose in to save your assets when you clearly don't care about them yourselves? Why would I ruin a great relationship with PIRAT for a group of guys who don't even play the game anymore save for a guy that annoys the **** out me? You little crybabies need to grow up and take ownership of your space lives and actions.


Bummer.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#136 - 2017-05-18 20:16:51 UTC
Something something blue donut is rotting

As expected Lol

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#137 - 2017-05-18 20:49:47 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:


Edit: Also thank you for proving ralph's point. And congrats to ralph for getting khrom to post more then a single sentence.

*tips hat*

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#138 - 2017-05-18 20:58:48 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
rex largo wrote:

I bet you also think that vendetta wardeced us simply because ralph called them out on not supporting us?

I'm not sure but calling them hub humping station gamey neutral logi warspam wankers may have had something to do with it too.

If that's what did it, they don't have enough people actively trying to kill them.

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White Blood Cell1
Doomheim
#139 - 2017-05-18 21:22:13 UTC

We rose early this morning and are hard for battle. Got to get the corp out and wrek something.
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#140 - 2017-05-18 21:28:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipsan Agrippa
I think our corps could do some dank spit-roasting on the BBQ.

At least in this ego driven epeen charged environment you have another honest named corp. Blink



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