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Dev blog: Color Blindness support is coming to EVE Online

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2017-05-18 16:45:20 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Color blindness can severely affect the readability of an otherwise great user interface. In EVE, we now would like to improve the UI in such a way that color blind people can adjust the color scheme to their needs.

Check out further details in the latest dev blog Color Blindness support is coming to EVE Online.

You also can check out the beta feature on our test server Singularity. Once you have tested the feature, please support our efforts by replying to this survey. Thanks!


A quick notification: The test server Singularity is currently being updated. As soon as the update is complete and Singularity online again, you can log in and check out the new feature again.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
HyperFlareX
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-05-18 17:03:41 UTC
I applaud CCP for taking the time to implement this! We in the majority might think it's wasted efforts, but it makes a huge difference for the affected. New Eden for all!
Helothane
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2017-05-18 17:25:38 UTC
At Fan Fest 2012 I was at the GUI round table and asked the very first question, which was about the difficultly that I had with colors in game as someone who is red/green colorblind. I was assured at that time that it was something that was checked for.

Yeeeaaah.....



While I am glad that there is progress being made on that five years later, part of the issue are the symbols used in game. The same symbol is used in the overview/local listing for someone who is in my corp, someone who is in my alliance and someone who has an active wardec against me. That doesn't make sense. Please expand the range of symbols used.
Tingerz
Devils Minions
#4 - 2017-05-18 17:40:25 UTC
As someone who is severely colourblind....... and as someone with a wife who when she asks me to "pass the X colour item" looks at me with astonishment when she gets the reply "Are you taking the ****"...... I thank you sincerely for this Big smile

I loved the "match UI colour to ship" thing..... until I jumped in my Cruor and quite literally lost all of my channel tabs Lol
Mal Lokrano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-05-18 17:54:51 UTC
Great job, I am surprised this wasn't added years ago.

"When going to a Party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two."
DiDDleR
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-05-18 18:00:18 UTC
This is good news - or it sounds like good news until you get to the bit that says -

Quote:
There are a couple UI areas where color blind mode does not work for the time being (most noticeably the scanning 3d scene), but it is our hope we’ll get all those areas covered in the future.


^ This is the main problem I find and I suffer from Protanopia, other parts of the game don't really seem to cause me problems. It it the fact that the scanning screen is black and the icons for the signatures are dark red which makes them very hard to see.

In fact I logged a ticket about this in September (ticket number #268893) -

Quote:
Hello I'm red / green colour blind and I find it extremely difficult to distinguish the red cosmic signature dots within the probe scanner view. They blend into the black background making it extremely difficult to use the probe scanner.

Is there any option to either change the background colour of the probe scanner or change the colour / size of the red dots?

I used to love exploring but now its almost impossible as I can't use the new interface.


I received a pretty nice reply which said that my issue would be raised with the relevant team and that I should also bring it up with the CSM in the forums.

Please sort out the scanning interface for us colour blind users this really is one of the things that really sucks!

I will also test out the new features you have implemented on Sisi and report back using the survey form.

Thanks and keep up the great work!
Hetty Lang
Kratus Tria
#7 - 2017-05-18 18:01:42 UTC
Great idea

Though i would like to see some work done of the color differences done to the icons colors for crystals, must admit i have problems telling the difference between some of them, particularly crystals that are different shade of the same color

Hopefully you can give some thought to making the color of crystals stronger colors or different colors altogether

Keep up the good work :)

Cheers
Daniel VonDerDerp
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2017-05-18 18:18:56 UTC
Just wanted to say, good on CCP for implementing this. Not colorblind, but I've worked with people who are. Always nice to see life being made easier for them!

Now, can you make some UI changes to accommodate how nothing makes sense after six or seven drinks? I find this to be a recurring problem I have...
John Blick
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2017-05-18 18:27:50 UTC
I agree with the best fix being different symbols. Colors are unreliable even with any sort of "fix"

I have Dueteronimia (sp, I know), and have panic'd so many times when it was just somebody from my corp.
Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
#10 - 2017-05-18 18:31:45 UTC
Awesome I'm very pleased that this has made it into the game :)
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#11 - 2017-05-18 18:34:38 UTC
Just a question really: Now that the Colour Blind mode is being developed, will the original UI colour sliders come back for those without?

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Ebony Texas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-05-18 18:57:11 UTC
its about time ccp get it together, however they still need to work on our other players who have handicaps and need much attention to the accessibility options they deserve.


get to work and make eve for EVERYONE.
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2017-05-18 18:58:29 UTC
Colour 'Perception' has always been the nicer phrase......Cool Much more accurate too.

But this is a long asked for step - thank you.

Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#14 - 2017-05-18 19:16:18 UTC
Not colour blind, but about time! I know a lot of people have been asking for this for years so great to see it finally happen :)
Ms Michigan
Aviation Professionals for EVE
#15 - 2017-05-18 19:27:27 UTC
Helothane wrote:

Please expand the range of symbols used.



Seconded
Min Mar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2017-05-18 19:39:36 UTC
As part of the 8%, I too applaud your efforts to help us out.
I would suggest that you include a link to a site that can help those afflicted identify the nature of their color impairedness so your surveys can be answered with accurate information.

Here is a link to one:
http://enchroma.com/test/instructions/

Looking forward to the tests on Sisi
Erika Mizune
Lucifer's Hammer
A Band Apart.
#17 - 2017-05-18 19:43:46 UTC
I love this and it's about time that accessibility options are getting added to the game! Would love to see this expanded to other options as well in the future.

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Sha'Uri Dark
VoidRunner's Inc.
#18 - 2017-05-18 21:15:11 UTC
9% of the player base used the advanced audio settings; we were deemed to insignificant and not worth the effort to maintain the code

Less than 8% of the player base is color blind

Enjoy it while it lasts Ugh
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2017-05-18 21:19:23 UTC
Thx

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
Cloon McCloon
Space Fukery
#20 - 2017-05-18 21:42:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloon McCloon
Ok, i'll be the bad guy and say what the 92% are thinking... screw colour blind people, work on real issues. Society caters too much to the weak and indigent as it is, to the point where kids can't even go to school with a peanut anymore and everyone is offended by everything. Example:
Marcus Tedric wrote:
Colour 'Perception' has always been the nicer phrase......Cool Much more accurate too..


If you're color blind, waaah... you can play eve with just the overview anyways.
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