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Two modules that can revolutionize Eve
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HydrogenBond Shaishi
C-H-C
#1 - 2017-05-17 00:24:25 UTC  |  Edited by: HydrogenBond Shaishi
How bout's we let a ship use the full bandwidth to fly a full fleet of drones. 100 bandwidth using 5 bandwidth lights should be 20 lights in space. How may years in the future and....only 5 max drones. weaksauce.

Anyway-

How about we have a drone hacking module that cuts the communication with an enemy's drone and makes it yours...hacking drone module.

Also...when's we getting T3 Battleships...it's 2017 and what's your excuse?

TL&DR- Static universe yields static gameplay and predictable space.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2017-05-17 00:29:19 UTC
HydrogenBond Shaishi wrote:
How bout's we let a ship use the full bandwidth to fly a full fleet of drones. 100 bandwidth using 5 bandwidth lights should be 20 lights in space. How may years in the future and....only 5 max drones. weaksauce.
That's a good argument for EVE2. The current state of ancient code coupled with layer upon layer of poorly implemented "fixes" over the years means permanent TiDi with your idea in even the smallest engagement.

Mr Epeen Cool
HydrogenBond Shaishi
C-H-C
#3 - 2017-05-17 00:32:23 UTC
I like the idea of getting harder PvE as you fly more drones as balance.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#4 - 2017-05-17 00:46:05 UTC
TIDI and engagement lag was the main reason why Eve used to have 10 drones and is now at 5 per ship and why ships like the worm, gila and rattle with geckos are being explored. The lag.... its horrible. Your idea.... its horrible!!Twisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
HydrogenBond Shaishi
C-H-C
#5 - 2017-05-17 00:49:15 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
TIDI and engagement lag was the main reason why Eve used to have 10 drones and is now at 5 per ship and why ships like the worm, gila and rattle with geckos are being explored. The lag.... its horrible. Your idea.... its horrible!!Twisted


Remember when software used to be > terrible?
Sethyrh Nakrar
#6 - 2017-05-17 00:58:19 UTC
Well Guardian Vexor was a terrible idea too. And yes, I saw one some weeks ago.

Praise the Omnissiah!
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-05-17 01:18:39 UTC
I stop taking any argument/suggestion seriously once the phrase "common guys its [The current year] why dont we have X!"


I can't believe its the current year and people are still coming up with bad ideas like this.
Rastuasi
Crunchy Crunchy
#8 - 2017-05-17 01:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Rastuasi
We already had this pre-2008, it made boats like the Eos too powerful. So CCP introduced bandwidth to help keep drones within hull sizes. Don't need Eos with full flights of heavies again.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#9 - 2017-05-17 02:04:58 UTC
YA know what?


http://imgur.com/a/xcKUv

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#10 - 2017-05-17 03:12:47 UTC
Rastuasi wrote:
We already had this pre-2008, it made boats like the Eos too powerful. So CCP introduced bandwidth to help keep drones within hull sizes. Don't need Eos with full flights of heavies again.
Eos? I still fondly remember my ratting Myrmidon with pulse lasers and five heavies.

Now that was some OP T1 fun!

Mr Epeen Cool
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#11 - 2017-05-17 03:25:08 UTC
If you can use 25 light drones on a ship with 125 bandwidth then who will use mediums and heavies any more?
2 lights have more dps than a medium and 5 lights have more dps than a heavy, and lights have far better speed and tracking.
A VNI with 25 light drones can easily get more than 1,100+ dps, which is prerty ridiculous for a whole thing costing less than 100mil, and then I guess everyone will go to fly a kiting VNI or Ishtar and let their light drones swarm eat whatever the target is alive.
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-05-17 03:36:19 UTC
HydrogenBond Shaishi wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
TIDI and engagement lag was the main reason why Eve used to have 10 drones and is now at 5 per ship and why ships like the worm, gila and rattle with geckos are being explored. The lag.... its horrible. Your idea.... its horrible!!Twisted


Remember when software used to be > terrible?


Each drone is an entity that has to have its position communicated to every client on the grid and drones can also be 'assisted' to the same person which causes them to take actions that wind up needing to be communicated at the same time (particularly locking and firing). There is a point where the bottlenecks for such things will be moved to outside CCPs realm and become difficult for them to control (ie your client(s) running on your hardware, and your internet connection). Its a bit more than just a software issue.
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2017-05-17 03:38:36 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
If you can use 25 light drones on a ship with 125 bandwidth then who will use mediums and heavies any more?
2 lights have more dps than a medium and 5 lights have more dps than a heavy, and lights have far better speed and tracking.
A VNI with 25 light drones can easily get more than 1,100+ dps, which is prerty ridiculous for a whole thing costing less than 100mil, and then I guess everyone will go to fly a kiting VNI or Ishtar and let their light drones swarm eat whatever the target is alive.


that would be countered by a smart bomb in pvp, but obviously the ratting VNI > all with 25 light drones.
Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2017-05-17 04:31:00 UTC
or 25xTwisted EC-300s...

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Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#15 - 2017-05-17 04:34:02 UTC
I'd go for this if there was a + cumulative increase chance that they go rogue and attack anything on grid.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#16 - 2017-05-17 06:14:09 UTC
Specia1 K wrote:
or 25xTwisted EC-300s...

Thatd put Falcon out of business....Twisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2017-05-18 00:49:43 UTC
How about 5 flights of all the ewar drones?

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Sethyrh Nakrar
#18 - 2017-05-18 08:49:58 UTC
Or just use a carrier or supercarrier.

Praise the Omnissiah!
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2017-05-18 08:58:57 UTC
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:
I stop taking any argument/suggestion seriously once the phrase "common guys its [The current year] why dont we have X!"


I can't believe its the current year and people are still coming up with bad ideas like this.




The Normans : "Sir, why are we invading England?"

William the Conquerer: "Because it's 1066!"

Cool

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#20 - 2017-05-18 09:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I imagined it somehow differently.

Small, medium, large and capital rigs for drones.

Small exterior drone bay - 5m3 + 5Mbit/sec available drone bandwidth + 1 drone available to be launched.
Small exterior drone bay II - 10m3 + 5Mbit/sec available drone bandwidth + 1 drone available to be launched + double the required calibration

Medium exterior drone bay - 10 m3 + 10Mbit/sec available drone bandwidth + 1 drone available to be launched.
Medium exterior drone bay II - 20 m3 + 10Mbit/sec available drone bandwidth + 1 drone available to be launched + double the required calibration

Large exterior drone bay - 25 m3 + 25Mbit/sec available drone bandwidth + 1 drone available to be launched
Large exterior drone bay II - 50 m3 + 25Mbit/sec available drone bandwidth + 1 drone available to be launched + double the required calibration

Capital exterior drone bay - ? + 1 drone or fighter available to be launched
Capital exterior drone bay II- ? + 1 drone or fighter available to be launched + double the required calibration

Penalty for every one of them: -1 high slot.

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