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Syenna Celeste
Sunny Weather Mercenaries
The Initiative.
#161 - 2017-05-17 21:19:23 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Syenna Celeste wrote:
Arrendis wrote:

Besides, we caught a PIE fleet.


Do PIE know that Kernher sold them out to you?


Please. We skirmished on the gate, the PIE FC got in touch with Boat, and both groups went chasing the Machs together.

But keep trying!


She gloated all over my fleet channel about how she'd called you in. Believe me, I know a rat when I smell one.

Typical, traitorous Minmatar that aren't even really loyal to their own.

I pity you.

Put your hands around my heart and squeeze me until I'm dry.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#162 - 2017-05-17 21:20:18 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

You have a personal stake in this beyond genocidal tendencies of just one man. And not join the likes of Usha'Kahn or the Electus Matari (I don't need answers to those questions)


Well, good, because none of that was questions. You might notice you didn't even use question marks. Or even a subject (or actual verb, since you didn't freakin' conjugate 'join') in the sentence fragment you call your second... question?

As for the rest... I've told Aria privately that I won't say anything else on this matter. So I won't.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#163 - 2017-05-17 21:32:26 UTC
I knew it. Samira Kernher is a traitor to the Amarr people.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#164 - 2017-05-17 21:34:08 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
As for the rest... I've told Aria privately that I won't say anything else on this matter. So I won't.


Thanks, Arrendis.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#165 - 2017-05-17 21:40:45 UTC
Samira gloating. That's the most adorable thing I've heard in ages.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#166 - 2017-05-17 21:43:17 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
I knew it. Samira Kernher is a traitor to the Amarr people.

She is Amarr by loyalty, not by birth. She is not one of Amarr people, she is one of Empire people.

And she is loyal to the Empire as far as I know.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#167 - 2017-05-17 21:44:33 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

You have a personal stake in this beyond genocidal tendencies of just one man. And not join the likes of Usha'Kahn or the Electus Matari (I don't need answers to those questions)


Well, good, because none of that was questions. You might notice you didn't even use question marks. Or even a subject (or actual verb, since you didn't freakin' conjugate 'join') in the sentence fragment you call your second... question?

As for the rest... I've told Aria privately that I won't say anything else on this matter. So I won't.


At least now I know you are not a talking head merely looking for attention.

Consider my accusations withdrawn. And you have my apologies.

Perhaps when this chapter resolves itself we can better ways to resolve the Nauplius issue once and for all.

Nothing is as impossible as it seems.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#168 - 2017-05-17 21:47:30 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

Consider my accusations withdrawn. And you have my apologies.


Don't bother.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#169 - 2017-05-17 21:50:25 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Ashlar Vellum wrote:

Oh so you were a part that contributed to the problem there, good work. That was the most of attention he actually got, the biggest fleet that he managed to get involved.


Again: Really, good work there trying to throw back in my face exactly the evidence for my position. You know, the stuff I haven't denied at all? I don't know why you think you're somehow pulling off some great reveal or moral 'gotcha' here.

"Giving him attention is bad, it makes him worse. Trust me, I know. We tried it your way."

"But you gave him attention, too!"

"I know. I already said we tried it your way, that's how we know it doesn't work."

"Ah-HAH!!!!"

:golfclap:

Not at all. You are the one that said "the rest are making it worse in the long-term", don't point fingers when you were one of the involved that contributed a fair share.

Arrendis wrote:
Please. We skirmished on the gate, the PIE FC got in touch with Boat, and both groups went chasing the Machs together.

But keep trying!

Wait a minute there, what PIE FC? There were 5 PIE members in that fleet merged with other militia corps Pyre and DnG included. From Oyeman fleet repositioned first to Ezzara, then to Vard when we actually had a fight with your fleet.

I could be forgetting something but I think Pyre was FCing that.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#170 - 2017-05-17 21:50:27 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
I knew it. Samira Kernher is a traitor to the Amarr people.

She is Amarr by loyalty, not by birth. She is not one of Amarr people, she is one of Empire people.

And she is loyal to the Empire as far as I know.


And thus a Commoner, Ms. Kim.

All the Empire asks for any of its citizens is Faith and Loyalty.

One who governs above the Commoners are the Holders.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#171 - 2017-05-17 21:51:30 UTC
Tick-Tock. Diplomacy has a best-before date.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#172 - 2017-05-17 21:59:55 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:

Not at all. You are the one that said "the rest are making it worse in the long-term", don't point fingers when you were one of the involved that contributed a fair share.


And I've also said my position was born of experience. What did you take that to mean?

Quote:

Wait a minute there, what PIE FC? There were 5 PIE members in that fleet merged with other militia corps Pyre and DnG included. From Oyeman fleet repositioned first to Ezzara, then to Vard when we actually had a fight with your fleet.

I could be forgetting something but I think Pyre was FCing that.


Then the PY-RE FC. Like I pay attention to which tiny little group is leading a tiny little gang. Whoever was running it shot Boat a private comm and got the whole thing sorted before the Machs were sighted.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#173 - 2017-05-17 22:01:35 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Tick-Tock. Diplomacy has a best-before date.


It requires you to have something the other party wants, but can't otherwise get, too. As a general rule.
Syenna Celeste
Sunny Weather Mercenaries
The Initiative.
#174 - 2017-05-17 22:05:17 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:

Wait a minute there, what PIE FC? There were 5 PIE members in that fleet merged with other militia corps Pyre and DnG included. From Oyeman fleet repositioned first to Ezzara, then to Vard when we actually had a fight with your fleet.

I could be forgetting something but I think Pyre was FCing that.


Pyre organised the bulk of operations that day, although we weren't going to fight off what was a vastly more powerful Goon force. I don't begrudge them that at all - I'd have brought overwhelming force too. Anyway, point is, we - Sorry, Pyre - never engaged as far as I remember, largely because we saw the Ferox fleet coming. If PIE did engage after we returned to Lasleinur it was off their own backs, or as a result of being lured into an engagement by some hostile entity in their own number... And we know there was at least one.

Put your hands around my heart and squeeze me until I'm dry.
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#175 - 2017-05-17 22:36:03 UTC
Syenna Celeste wrote:
Ashlar Vellum wrote:

Wait a minute there, what PIE FC? There were 5 PIE members in that fleet merged with other militia corps Pyre and DnG included. From Oyeman fleet repositioned first to Ezzara, then to Vard when we actually had a fight with your fleet.

I could be forgetting something but I think Pyre was FCing that.


Pyre organised the bulk of operations that day, although we weren't going to fight off what was a vastly more powerful Goon force. I don't begrudge them that at all - I'd have brought overwhelming force too. Anyway, point is, we - Sorry, Pyre - never engaged as far as I remember, largely because we saw the Ferox fleet coming. If PIE did engage after we returned to Lasleinur it was off their own backs, or as a result of being lured into an engagement by some hostile entity in their own number... And we know there was at least one.


There were several fleets in space that day. At the end of the day, the structure got blown up.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#176 - 2017-05-17 23:19:11 UTC
Syenna Celeste wrote:
Ashlar Vellum wrote:

Wait a minute there, what PIE FC? There were 5 PIE members in that fleet merged with other militia corps Pyre and DnG included. From Oyeman fleet repositioned first to Ezzara, then to Vard when we actually had a fight with your fleet.

I could be forgetting something but I think Pyre was FCing that.


Pyre organised the bulk of operations that day, although we weren't going to fight off what was a vastly more powerful Goon force. I don't begrudge them that at all - I'd have brought overwhelming force too. Anyway, point is, we - Sorry, Pyre - never engaged as far as I remember, largely because we saw the Ferox fleet coming. If PIE did engage after we returned to Lasleinur it was off their own backs, or as a result of being lured into an engagement by some hostile entity in their own number... And we know there was at least one.

My surprise was mostly about mention of some mythical PIE FC, when there wasn't one at all. Same goes about "both groups went chasing the Machs together", that's just complete malarkey.

We (you, me, etc. - the fleet we were in) did fight them tho, I think we are on the same kill together somewhere in that fight, also certain wolf died in that fight too.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#177 - 2017-05-17 23:55:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
The FC was Sid Afraldir. I had informed him that a Goon fleet was coming to attack Nauplius's tower. He asked me who had told me. I refused to name my source. This was apparently cause for anger among some pilots.

The hunt for the machs, and the eventual fight with the Goon fleet (a fight that took place on a gate where, I believe, we waited for them to jump in on us), were decisions made entirely by Sid as the FC.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#178 - 2017-05-17 23:56:52 UTC
But you were totally gloating, right? I mean, that's the kind of thing you do.

Apparently.

... right?

Spirits below, now I actually kind of want to see what that'd look like.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#179 - 2017-05-17 23:58:36 UTC
I gloat about that svipul, Mizhara.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#180 - 2017-05-17 23:59:37 UTC
Hell, I gloat about that on your behalf.