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My Total Net Worth Jumped From 700mil to 4.5 BILLION - But Why?
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Cuthbert Giliad
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2017-05-12 23:33:48 UTC
First time posting here, though I have learned a lot from the forum.

So yesterday I noticed my net worth jumped almost 4 Billion.

Naturally I got excited and started looking for the reason. The total net worth indicator says it is because of my assets, so I started looking through my assets in every station (using the assets tool). and nothing I saw was explaining this.

Is there any possible way a stranger (I dont know any other players) gave me something (I checked redeemable items).

Is there somewhere else I could look that wouldnt show up in the assets tool?

It probably is bug with the new net worth thing but Im not seeing anyone else mention this, and honestly I am hoping it is correct because all of a sudden I have big plans to rule the universe with this money Evil

Thanks for any help.
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#2 - 2017-05-12 23:42:08 UTC
I thought this feature is useless but look, people are excited about it D:


There was a market update and the estimated values might be a bit iffy.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3 - 2017-05-12 23:46:13 UTC
I wouldn't mind seeing my worth jump by 4.5B. But then, I so rarely check it that I wouldn't know if it actually happened or not.

Mr Epeen Cool
Cuthbert Giliad
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2017-05-12 23:50:21 UTC
Blade Darth wrote:
I thought this feature is useless but look, people are excited about it D:


There was a market update and the estimated values might be a bit iffy.


Thanks I saw that mentioned in another post, but I am wondering if iffy means in can off by like 98%?
Sister Stetille
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-05-13 00:09:19 UTC
Might be an issue with the PLEX split, same thing happened when they split RAM.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#6 - 2017-05-13 01:32:03 UTC
Are they factoring in SP value on the market?

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Eleanor Roscommon
Bleu Femme Felis
#7 - 2017-05-13 01:51:46 UTC
A character's Total Net Worth is a sum of the following:

- The total sum of the estimated market price of a character's assets. This includes any items that the player owns in Stations or Upwell Structures, items located in outstanding sell orders on the market or contracts, and those in a character's Asset Safety system.
- The total sum of all escrows in a character's currently outstanding buy orders on the market.
- The total sum of all escrows in a character's currently outstanding contracts.

Some assets are however not taken into consideration for a character‘s Total Net Worth:

- Blueprints do not count towards a character‘s Total Net Worth.
- Any skill books that have been injected do not count towards a character‘s Total Net Worth.
- Corporation assets do not count towards a character‘s Total Net Worth.


(I copied and pasted this text.)
Cuthbert Giliad
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2017-05-13 04:02:44 UTC
Eleanor Roscommon wrote:
A character's Total Net Worth is a sum of the following:

- The total sum of the estimated market price of a character's assets. This includes any items that the player owns in Stations or Upwell Structures, items located in outstanding sell orders on the market or contracts, and those in a character's Asset Safety system.
- The total sum of all escrows in a character's currently outstanding buy orders on the market.
- The total sum of all escrows in a character's currently outstanding contracts.

Some assets are however not taken into consideration for a character‘s Total Net Worth:

- Blueprints do not count towards a character‘s Total Net Worth.
- Any skill books that have been injected do not count towards a character‘s Total Net Worth.
- Corporation assets do not count towards a character‘s Total Net Worth.


(I copied and pasted this text.)


Well this gave me the idea to check the "Asset Safety"...but no luck, Im still a Billionaire on paper only Sad
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2017-05-13 13:57:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Tedric
Something is most definitely broken - and I am certainly trying to zero in on the problem.

Net Worth is something I've tracked for a long time - and this feature could have made it rather easier...

Yesterday a character with some ~107b Net Worth suddenly became 500+b 'richer'!

Would be nice if true.Big smile

Having had it before and becoming more convinced of what is happening - I currently believe that:

- BPCs in containers/hangers are not being counted (as designed)

- but BPCs in a can on contract are counted at full value (serious value) individually as BPOs


PS Just checked again - and yes, with no other changes than having the contract(s) accepted - that 500b has nearly gone (smaller contract remains).

Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#10 - 2017-05-13 14:16:16 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Are they factoring in SP value on the market?

Ha!
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#11 - 2017-05-13 16:16:17 UTC
Sell the stock now while it is artificially swollen!...oh wait...


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Cuthbert Giliad
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2017-05-13 23:38:50 UTC
Marcus Tedric wrote:
Something is most definitely broken - and I am certainly trying to zero in on the problem.

Net Worth is something I've tracked for a long time - and this feature could have made it rather easier...

Yesterday a character with some ~107b Net Worth suddenly became 500+b 'richer'!

Would be nice if true.Big smile

Having had it before and becoming more convinced of what is happening - I currently believe that:

- BPCs in containers/hangers are not being counted (as designed)

- but BPCs in a can on contract are counted at full value (serious value) individually as BPOs


PS Just checked again - and yes, with no other changes than having the contract(s) accepted - that 500b has nearly gone (smaller contract remains).


I had a contract for a couple Retriever BPCs I was selling, I just checked, they did sell, (for like 1mil) but I still have 4 billion too much Net worth.

I propose that any players with inflated net worths should be compensated by the powers that be with that amount in cold hard isk. I think it would be a nice gesture...anyone listening?
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#13 - 2017-05-14 01:34:25 UTC
I checked all my characters, and our net worth is close enough to what I had figured.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Cuthbert Giliad
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2017-05-24 17:39:05 UTC
Its been over a week and still I have 4 Billion in unaccounted assets. I recently sold a lot of my blue prints and BPCs in a contract sale and it didnt change, apart from the terms of the contract (about 30 million isk)

Any ideas of how I can get my hands on this mystery isk?
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2017-05-24 18:53:45 UTC
try using jeveassets, or some other asset management tool, and check what it thinks you are worth. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6419&find=unread

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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#16 - 2017-05-24 19:01:06 UTC
Cuthbert Giliad wrote:
Its been over a week and still I have 4 Billion in unaccounted assets. I recently sold a lot of my blue prints and BPCs in a contract sale and it didnt change, apart from the terms of the contract (about 30 million isk)

Any ideas of how I can get my hands on this mystery isk?


You're thinking of this place all wrong. As if CCP had the ISK back in a safe. The ISK's not here. Your ISK is in Joe's Armageddon...right next to yours. And in the Cuthbert's Rattler, and Mrs. VonBrenner's Orca, and a hundred others.

Why, you're lending them the ISK to build, and then, they're going to pay it back to you as best they can. Now what are you going to do? Foreclose on them?...Now wait...now listen...now listen to me. I beg of you not to do this thing.

If CCP gets hold of this Building and Loan there'll never be another decent ship built in this town. He's already got charge of the game. He's got the network. He's got the market. And now he's after us. Why? Well, it's very simple. Because we're cutting in on his business, that's why. And because he wants to keep you living in his slums and paying the kind of rent he decides.

Joe, you lived in one of his stations, didn't you? Well, have you forgotten? Have you forgotten what he charged you for that broken-down shack? Here, Ed. You know, you remember last year when things weren't going so well, and you couldn't make your payments. You didn't lose your ship, did you? Do you think CCP would have let you keep it?

Can't you understand what's happening here? Don't you see what's happening? CCP isn't selling. CCP's buying! And why? Because we're panicky and he's not. That's why. He's picking up some bargains. Now, we can get through this thing all right. We've got to stick together, though. We've got to have faith in each other.

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JC Mieyli
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2017-05-25 11:18:08 UTC
check your plex vault
aurum got converted to plex
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#18 - 2017-05-25 12:31:17 UTC
I think we have a really bad case of Hyperinflation here.

Did you had close contact with rats in null sec region?

I heard a lot of people suffers from it there, and they are spreading the plague like never before.

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Skorpynekomimi
#19 - 2017-05-25 13:26:40 UTC
Aurum got turned to PLEX lately; maybe you had that kicking around?

If I'd known that CCP were going to do that, I wouldn't have tried to cash out all my Aurum back in the day. I'm still trying to sell the last one of those goddamn T-shirts I bought with it.
Totally not regretting these goggles, though.

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Calshim
Incontinent Bastards
#20 - 2017-05-25 14:34:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Calshim
Edit - stupid forum
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