Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You somehow forgot to answer the question I posted earlier.

What question? All that comes from you is bullshit that makes no sense whatsoever and whining.


I see. You're whining here and have your market bot running in the background.

That's not a question, that's some pathetic attempt at twisting my words around. Although, on second thought, that would require a level of intelligence you have shown time and again to lack.

An afk cloaker that's there to annoy the locals wouldn't sit in empty systems and report any non-blue players in their intel networks automatically.

It is a very relevant question and one that they will refuse to answer for obvious reasons...

But we also covered the balancing factor:

Unattended orders and contracts are more susceptible to being compromised by players actively monitoring their business. The same is not true of camping under a cloak.

Every other activity in the game takes on more risk and becomes less effective/efficient when done AFK, when such is possible at all.

At best the cloak is unaffected by going afk, and in the case of camping under a cloak the intended effect is usually enhanced by the protracted time spent doing it.


What is generally understood to be botting is only coincidentally linked to resources. Botting is using third party programming and/or scripts to automate some aspect of gameplay. It's pretty much beyond the scope of this conversation because no one should be hunting bots, accounts using bots should just be permanently banned and done away with. Going AFK isn't botting.

As to a compromise where certain cloaking devices remove the ship from local, but it is possible to probe all ships, that can work with the caveat that the cloak that removes you from local not do so indefinitely. Dscan and probes require active use, and keeping a cloak like that going should likewise require active use, not one touch fire and forget functionality.

If there is truth about random characters spread around drone space logging traffic. Then it would make AFK cloaking an even worse mechanic. Without a single input into the client to stay cloaked would make it extremely easy to create monitoring bots which would be impossible to detect. Double edged sword that basically piggybacks on AFK cloaking.

Cloaking is by far the most destructive feature that punishes active gameplay. Only people that benefits are the ones abusing it, the type of players that abuse passive AFK gameplay.

CCP not dealing with bots is the problem...

Yes, and we covered the risk angle too. Sitting at a safe cloaked means you are at very little risk and to maintain that you pose no risk towards others. The only remaining factor is the uncertainty--is the player at they keyboard or not. For that we even discussed how one can change that uncertainty into risk as well.

So, discussed (to death) and there is no there there.

Then report them, stop being a passive aggressive b**ch on the forums.

Of courese, what would be hilarious is if you do and CCP investigates you and finds out you are the one botting. Oh, I'd laugh long and hard at that.

Its technically impossible to detect client side bots that don't send any packets to the server. If you only monitor what the client receives then your 100% safe from detection. Just SS, cloak and start monitoring the packets received from the server. Just use any packet sniffing tool like Wireshark or any external tool that doesn't even involve modifying the client. All you would have to figure out is how to decrypt the packets, which any botter would be able to figure out with a de-compiled client.

AFK cloaking is literally a perfect botting mechanic to mentor over a system, 100% undetectable.