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A short announcement related to TD involvement in Kyonoke attacks.
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TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#141 - 2017-05-09 00:09:31 UTC
All i'm saying , is i believe what happened was unintentional. He was in his ship , became sick incapacitated and crashed , if he could of averted it , he would of.

If we lived in a perfect world , maybe things would work like you suggest should happen.

There is no proof to say it was this or that , people will believe what they want about the incident.



Arrendis
TK Corp
#142 - 2017-05-09 01:12:23 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
All i'm saying , is i believe what happened was unintentional. He was in his ship , became sick incapacitated and crashed , if he could of averted it , he would of.


Yes. You said that. What you haven't said is why you think he warped to a planet when he knew he was sick. Or if you believe he went from 'I feel ok' to 'I'm completely unconscious' in a matter of minutes. Especially since ships exit warp and stop. So he needed to actively drive toward the planet.

That's all I'm asking for: given the behavior we know ships exhibit, what makes you believe that his ship behaved in a way vessels are known not to behave?
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#143 - 2017-05-09 01:36:03 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
TomHorn wrote:
All i'm saying , is i believe what happened was unintentional. He was in his ship , became sick incapacitated and crashed , if he could of averted it , he would of.


Yes. You said that. What you haven't said is why you think he warped to a planet when he knew he was sick. Or if you believe he went from 'I feel ok' to 'I'm completely unconscious' in a matter of minutes. Especially since ships exit warp and stop. So he needed to actively drive toward the planet.

That's all I'm asking for: given the behavior we know ships exhibit, what makes you believe that his ship behaved in a way vessels are known not to behave?


What do you think ? that's what i want to know. Whats the point you are trying to make. Do you believe it was intentional ?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#144 - 2017-05-09 01:39:41 UTC
TomHorn wrote:

What do you think ? that's what i want to know. Whats the point you are trying to make. Do you believe it was intentional ?


I think it's impossible for his ship to have warped from the stargate to the planet on its own.
I think it's impossible for his ship to have driven itself into the atmosphere of a planet on its own.
I think those two things mean it's impossible for him to have gotten where he was without making the decision to go there.

And that's intent.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#145 - 2017-05-09 02:10:53 UTC
Uh ... not to defend TomHorn (about much of anything), but Kyonoke does affect the brain, so....
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#146 - 2017-05-09 02:17:09 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
TomHorn wrote:

What do you think ? that's what i want to know. Whats the point you are trying to make. Do you believe it was intentional ?


I think it's impossible for his ship to have warped from the stargate to the planet on its own.
I think it's impossible for his ship to have driven itself into the atmosphere of a planet on its own.
I think those two things mean it's impossible for him to have gotten where he was without making the decision to go there.

And that's intent.



That's what i thought you were getting at.

You your saying a lot of stuff , you don't know that is how it was or not, i don't.

All i can do is repeat myself , say i don't believe he would intentionally crash his ship into the planet.

Your trying to say , because he flew his ship close to the planet that's intent to crash it into the planet. Sounds like some god dam lawyer bull to me.

No motive for doing it.


Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#147 - 2017-05-09 02:29:38 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Ummm correct me if I am wrong but the hiring of Terrorists for a State Run Militia or State Nationalist Militia is like a bad thing right?

Well, that's now an interesting question.

I am pretty sure than in TLF that's pretty much a norm, especially taking into account what was said by Republic loyalist above.

Here in the State? We believe in Professionalism. We don't murder just people who belong to enemy, but who don't grab weapons to fight us. We don't waste resources just to instil fear in enemy. We aren't gallente to torture and genocide.

Yes, I believe what you have said is a bad thing, because terrorists are in majority of their numbers are amateurs and incompetent fools who embezzle war fund without real progress to the war effort.

I would never hire a person as a terrorist, nor hold these people on my ship for any reasonable or unreasonable purpose.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#148 - 2017-05-09 02:48:36 UTC
TomHorn wrote:

Your trying to say , because he flew his ship close to the planet that's intent to crash it into the planet. Sounds like some god dam lawyer bull to me.


I'm saying that—specific motive unknown—there's no way the ship gets to the planet without the specific intention of putting it there. And that given that he'd have to at least strongly suspect he was sick with Kyonoke, that means he was knowingly and intentionally putting the civilian population at risk.

You don't have to know someone's motive for setting up a ticking bomb to know that you don't set one up without the intention of setting up a ticking bomb.