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Purity of the Throne declares war on Sanguine Illuminations

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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#21 - 2017-05-06 23:31:54 UTC
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
Your demands are hereby refused. The movement demands a complete surrender of heretical materials and supporters. If you continue to refuse to act against our Lord's divine mandate, we will act accordingly.

Quite a coincidence that hours after we declare action against heretical elements our order received a declaration of war on behalf of the Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque. An action which leads us to believe our original assumption may be correct, these Penitent have sway over the naive faithful within.


Oh I am beginning to like you...

I will take this opportunity to give you an education which seems that your Imperial sanctioned tutors have forgotten to add. It is quite possible you were ignoring them.

You trolled PIE in Mehatoor and got War decced by PIE. An organization known for its fervent support of the Amarr Empire regardless who is sitting on the Throne.

Your response?

To declare war on Sani Sabik Corporations and even Faithful Corporations that disagreed your flawed dogma. And you are surprised that SFRIM now is in on the act.

It only confirms the truth that exists. You are a terrorist and criminal. And now Prey... for my crews.

I hold out my hand to the two you tempted to your side. Offering them sanctuary from the crucifixion that awaits you.

I am curious just see the legendary Ardshapur wisdom at play.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#22 - 2017-05-06 23:33:53 UTC
You're not talking about biomass. You're talking about a combat vessel capable of cracking whatever nut he's flying, as well as catching his pod, the efforts of hunting him down and so on and so forth. Take it from someone who's been doing mercenary work for a while now, you don't pay for what the target's worth. You're paying for what the mercenaries and assassins are worth.

5m isn't going to buy you neither mercenaries nor assassins worth sod all.

Then again, when they're worth anything they don't tend to take contracts against small fry so you're probably better off just fitting a ship and do the job yourself.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#23 - 2017-05-06 23:34:05 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

Mr. Mokk provide me the rates for the drunken Marmites and double it. I will gladly accept the charges including expense.

That being said 5,000,000 ISK is perfect when all we are talking about is biomass.


Holy crap. Marmite Collective. Look them up. They're not Mercenary Coalition, but they know how to camp trade hubs (and not much else). Talk to Tora Bushido if you can. Stand up guy... for a merc.


Keep this up and I may actually start liking you. Big smile

Once I deal with the petty matter at hand I will.

If things work out I'll buy you a drink.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#24 - 2017-05-06 23:41:26 UTC
Wrong Sabik. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris declared war on God's faithful after we sought to wipe your faithless husks from the heavens, their involvement is secondary and one of convenience.

Though should they continue to allow you to be their mouthpiece, I'll have no choice but to reconsider my stance on these stray faithful brothers and sisters.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#25 - 2017-05-06 23:41:33 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
You're not talking about biomass. You're talking about a combat vessel capable of cracking whatever nut he's flying, as well as catching his pod, the efforts of hunting him down and so on and so forth. Take it from someone who's been doing mercenary work for a while now, you don't pay for what the target's worth. You're paying for what the mercenaries and assassins are worth.

5m isn't going to buy you neither mercenaries nor assassins worth sod all.

Then again, when they're worth anything they don't tend to take contracts against small fry so you're probably better off just fitting a ship and do the job yourself.


To be honest. I am out hunting them myself. I have too many non-combatants for me not to even consider it

I really would rather let PIE and SFRIM deal with him.

The fact he threatens my crews almost none of which of Sani Sabik to begin with it just shows the short-sightedness of fanatics in general. I've had my fill of them.

He wanted this fight, he wanted to make stars run red with the Blood of Innocents. Fine. Not every Amarr needs to of the Faith to defend themselves.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#26 - 2017-05-06 23:49:05 UTC
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
Wrong Sabik. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris declared war on God's faithful after we sought to wipe your faithless husks from the heavens, their involvement is secondary and one of convenience.

Though should they continue to allow you to be their mouthpiece, I'll have no choice but to reconsider my stance on these stray faithful brothers and sisters.


Oh does that mean you sought their permission first?

Sounds like you were rejected by the Faithful like a child seeking approval from their parent.

We have not broken any laws traitor. We carry Letters of Marque from agents of the Imperial Navy and House Sarum to hunt Sansha and Blood Raiders.

And while I personally live the death mark on my head. My crews don't.

I am willing to pay the sacrifice for their survival. Are you?

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#27 - 2017-05-06 23:51:39 UTC
They decided their own fate when they began working with a Sabik.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#28 - 2017-05-07 04:08:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
Oh my, this whole business is getting a tad unseemly.

For the record, PIE is duty-bound to destroy both of you for heresies of very different natures. We've only declared war on the Purity of the Throne because Ilan has been spotted operating in our AO of late. The blooder's gaggle, in the meantime, isn't even worth noticing in their hisec hidey-hole. In all honesty, if they just stay away from the warzone and hunt one another, we'll probably never have to fire a shot.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2017-05-07 06:46:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
Quite a coincidence that hours after we declare action against heretical elements our order received a declaration of war on behalf of the Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque. An action which leads us to believe our original assumption may be correct, these Penitent have sway over the naive faithful within.
These are very serious accusations and I am be interested in hearing from a representative of SFRIM regarding this.

I realize the source of this but if SFRIM truly are innocent of collaborating with Sanists as I suspect then it will be no burden to explain. I have nothing but faith in the members and motivations of SFRIM and am confident they can silence this. Aldrith has spoken for Praetoria and their actions have proven them loyal to the Empire many times over of course.

Pursuing Sanists is a righteous act but if it is done only to shield yourself from reprisal for your own heresies Ilam then you poison yourself and all loyal servants of god with your lies. If I see you in space and you are wrong or lying intentionally then I promise you death Ilan.

I will not speak of what may happen should you be telling the truth out of respect for those organizations and people that you have accused of collaborating with the Sabik.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2017-05-07 07:46:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
Your demands are hereby refused. The movement demands a complete surrender of heretical materials and supporters. If you continue to refuse to act against our Lord's divine mandate, we will act accordingly.

Quite a coincidence that hours after we declare action against heretical elements our order received a declaration of war on behalf of the Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque. An action which leads us to believe our original assumption may be correct, these Penitent have sway over the naive faithful within.


Actually the coincidence is with PIE's declaration of war. SFRIM has joined PIE's war to Support PIE given , generally, the Purity Cultists appearing in one of SFRIM's area of operations (the Mehatoor area) , and more specifically, verbal assaults in local on our pilots, as well as an attempt to fire on one of our pilots.

As this is not, generally our primary focus with respect to our in-space activities, our war declarations and related actions tend to be limited and 'police' action oriented in nature (see prior engagements against Blooder and Sani entities, the CTCS, the Bleeders, Sani-Sabik alliance, and Hoi Andrapodistai), it will likely be discontinued should it be clear that PIE has the Puritan's activities effectively interdicted. The Puritans, however, are now always Red to SFRIM until they repent of their heresy and engaged where Concord regulations permit. Of course, if they declare war on us again thereafter, so be it.

Ayallah wrote:
These are very serious accusations and I am be interested in hearing from a representative of SFRIM regarding this.


Ayallah, I hope my response above addresses your interest. Given that you've assisted SFRIM on prior ops with respect to certain Sanists, I hope that you know my - and SFRIM's - views well by this point.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#31 - 2017-05-07 13:59:01 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
I will not speak of what may happen should you be telling the truth out of respect for those organizations and people that you have accused of collaborating with the Sabik.


Absolutely nothing, because you're not going to leave PL, and good luck talking the important folks like Elise, Grath, and Killah into wardeccing a bunch of relative nobodies (Sorry, SFRIM, but you know what I mean), especially with practice season about to start?
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2017-05-07 16:02:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Thank you Lunarisse, it more than does and I wish you luck. I apologize for any insult but I think all can agree that Sansists must not be allowed to take root in the Empire again. This Heretic wishes to turn us against each other but I know we are all of common goal.


Arrendis, this may seem strange to you but I can just ask any one of those people to push the button on a war-dec for me at any time. PL has no hierarchy to get in the way of communication, the most they would do is ask me to pay the fees. When I was pursing the same thing to war-dec Hoi Andrapodistai I was not even asked why, just advised on the ISK cost and who actually has the power to initiate the war.

I am not sure why you think it is a burden or challenge to simply communicate with the right people to get a task done; I suspect you are picturing the immense bureaucracy of the Imperium and imagining the same thing in the Legion.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#33 - 2017-05-07 17:36:06 UTC
WAR REPORT DAY TWO

Cowards remain Docked at their Stations.

Sanguine Illuminations Pilots set up interdiction points to destroy Puritan Vessels.

None of the Purity of the Throne ships undocked.

WAR FOOTING AMENDMENTS:

All Sanguine Illumination Pilots are authorized to resume normal operations in all systems of the Domain and Bleak Land Systems. Armed Esorts are no longer required but are recommended as a precaution for mining and transport mission.

Provisions of the Mehatoor Exclusion Zone are still in effect as PIE and SFRIM vessel sweep the system for the Terrorist.

Puritan Pilots are to be offered an opportunity to defect as their leader Ilan Ardishapur is now officially marked with a Bounty. All SANIL security vessels not on escort operations may actively hunt for Purtian Vessels while on their Anti-Piracy missions.

PERSONAL NOTES:

From most you can tell we are no longer seriously considering the Puritan a serious threat to our operations.

Our current assessment is that one of our Ventures sufficiently armed with light drones is more then enough to destroy a squadron of their most heavily armed frigates. We judge their abilities to be no better then Sansha and Blood Raider Vessels we destroy regularly in our areas of operation.

They have thrown down the gauntlet and we have gladly taken it up it is our way in the Amarr Empire. I have taken to the stars in my Battlecruiser Divinitas Levitas to personally run missions and found them... lacking.

I find their Faith and Commitment to their cause... lacking.

Beyond the pittance offered by myself because they are not worth much more than that.

I watch their bluster dissolve into the void even before the speak. Their resolve wither like grains of sand in the wind.

Traitors, cowards... these titles are too good for you.

Vermin, trash... yes more appropriate and if you come into space. We will take the correct action for both.


We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#34 - 2017-05-07 18:43:47 UTC
Ayallah wrote:

Arrendis, this may seem strange to you but I can just ask any one of those people to push the button on a war-dec for me at any time. PL has no hierarchy to get in the way of communication, the most they would do is ask me to pay the fees. When I was pursing the same thing to war-dec Hoi Andrapodistai I was not even asked why, just advised on the ISK cost and who actually has the power to initiate the war.

I am not sure why you think it is a burden or challenge to simply communicate with the right people to get a task done; I suspect you are picturing the immense bureaucracy of the Imperium and imagining the same thing in the Legion.


Ayallah, this may strain your capacity for reading comprehension, but I didn't mention hierarchy at all. I said those people are important within PL's framework. I'll leave the rest to your inference, since you seem to be more than capable of imagining any number of things nobody's said, so you can artgue against them.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2017-05-07 19:24:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Putting an insult every other line when you talk to me does not ever make it true you know. It just makes you come off as toxic and ineffectual.

You seem to have dropped your insistence that I cannot move Pandemic Legion into a war dec (obviously the most logistics heavy and significant act an alliance can undertake reserved only for the most important fleet commanders and corporation leaders) so either you realized you have no idea what you are talking about or you just forgot the original insult you used to bait me into reading the new insults you want to use.

How about this, send me 500 million ISK and I will war dec whomever you want Arrendis. I assume your words are always more about helping your own self esteem or some impotent goal you think you are masterfully working towards than any point I ever make but I can still prove it to you regardless.

I am somewhat worried about you, starting to act like Diana Kim around Makoto or something. Literally every post I make you write some other sad attempt to get under my skin. Then when I see you in a public channel you are civil and act as though you have not said my name. You should consider how this is reflecting on you. You should consider what this means about what place you are in life now. Continue insulting me all you like if that is what you need to be in a better place Arrendis. Maybe seek out god or spend some time watching the weather change and the birds go about their day. It has always helped me when things are bad, lashing out never did. I know that in hard times it is difficult to take advice especially from someone you think is against you but I promise I hold you or your coalition no ill-will and never have.

Anyway send me five hundred million ISK and the alliance or corporation name in the description if you are interested in calling the bluff whatsoever. You will have your answer in twenty four hours and the confirmation mail as soon as I see the ISK to pay the fee.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#36 - 2017-05-08 02:07:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ilan Ardishapur
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Actually the coincidence is with PIE's declaration of war. SFRIM has joined PIE's war to Support PIE given , generally, the Purity Cultists appearing in one of SFRIM's area of operations (the Mehatoor area) , and more specifically, verbal assaults in local on our pilots, as well as an attempt to fire on one of our pilots.


You insult me with such slanderous lies. Given I spoke one sentence to this pilot of yours, a Sabik who hasn't renounced their faith as far as I can tell, it is expected to hear they twisted my mere observance of their joining your order into a more nefarious lie. None of my capsuleer brothers vessels have engaged SFRIM, even during the Empress's failed purge of God's faithful.

Speak plainly and not under a false guise Lady Aspenstar, for the evil you've taken in has obviously taken its hold on those once under your charge.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2017-05-08 03:08:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
Speak plainly and not under a false guise Lady Aspenstar, for the evil you've taken in has obviously taken its hold on those once under your charge.


Emphasis mine.

People always seem to use the word "obviously" when they don't want you to think too much about what they're saying.


Edit:

Uh-- just to be clear, Praefecta Daphiti, though well respected, is of common rank. It probably does neither of you any kindness to address her as a noble.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#38 - 2017-05-08 06:42:03 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Putting an insult every other line when you talk to me does not ever make it true you know. It just makes you come off as toxic and ineffectual.


It's not an insult when it's a pretty clear observation. For example, you're doing the 'poor reading comprehension' thing again. Lemme demonstrate:

Quote:

You seem to have dropped your insistence that I cannot move Pandemic Legion into a war dec


You're basing this on the fact that I didn't talk about it in my last post. By that logic, you didn't talk about basic math in this post. Does that mean you no longer believe that 1+1=2, or does it just mean you didn't alter your stance, so you don't see a need to update your stated position?

Quote:

How about this, send me 500 million ISK and I will war dec whomever you want Arrendis.


Do you promise? I send you 500 million, and PL war decs the group I indicate? If I send you the money and you fail to do it, will you publicly acknowledge that you couldn't get Pandemic Legion to war dec the target of my choice?

Quote:
I assume your words are always more about helping your own self esteem or some impotent goal you think you are masterfully working towards than any point I ever make but I can still prove it to you regardless.

I am somewhat worried about you, starting to act like Diana Kim around Makoto or something. Literally every post I make you write some other sad attempt to get under my skin.


Well, then we're back to the reading comprehension problem, because I've pretty clearly said on like a dozen different occassions just this year that my words are actually entirely about my own amusement. You might wanna look into what that means. Seriously, Ayallah. You seem to think I take you seriously. Or that I take me seriously. I've actually come out and said, in very plain terms, that I don't. That I'm amusing myself here, and that's it. I've said this to you, many times. Directly. Pointedly. Here and on public comms.

And then when you don't seem to understand that, you act insulted when I point out that you don't seem to understand that. Maybe... you're the one who likes getting under your skin? I dunno. It's kinda weird.
Coulter Phelps
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2017-05-08 07:09:38 UTC
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
You insult me with such slanderous lies. Given I spoke one sentence to this pilot of yours, a Sabik who hasn't renounced their faith as far as I can tell, it is expected to hear they twisted my mere observance of their joining your order into a more nefarious lie. None of my capsuleer brothers vessels have engaged SFRIM, even during the Empress's failed purge of God's faithful.

Speak plainly and not under a false guise Lady Aspenstar, for the evil you've taken in has obviously taken its hold on those once under your charge.


Oh, lets just cover slanderous lies with more slanderous lies. Let me set the record straight here.

I am the pilot Ilan is talking about, and he is indeed correct in saying that there were no shots fired. When I was explaining the verbal assaults to the Praefecta, I informed her that I was in the same station as Ilan and was going to fight him. He never undocked, unfortunately. Had he, however, I would have challenged him to a legal ship duel right then and there. I apologise for the misunderstanding on my part.

But, Ilan, if you think just because I choose to wear red, that I'm in any way related to the Sabik, you're sorely mistaken. It's not just the blooders than want to blast you out of the sky. If that's "as far as you can tell", then how are the very few people that choose to support you supposed to trust your vision?

Colt.

Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#40 - 2017-05-08 07:54:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ilan Ardishapur
You publicly stated that you'd love to attend a gathering of heretics. Something a true follower of the faith wouldn't even consider doing, so yes, my vision is one others can trust.

Don't mistake me as a fool.