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Need your advice! What Ship / Build for LVL 4 missions?

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Emperor Xero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2017-05-07 03:31:28 UTC
Big apologies all. I didn't fit a MJD after all I'm using a build that I found here on the forums. My rattlesnake fit is this:

[Rattlesnake, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster
Gistum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Booster 800 II
Gist B-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Cat II

Garde II x2
Bouncer II x2
1x Gecko
4x hobgoblin II's

I put a cap booster in instead of a Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script. I hope that is okay. I was worried about my cap if I have to mwd far away. Right now according to fitting window this setup gets me 1300dps. My sentry drones max out at 78km for range. I thought it would be longer than that. What do you guys think? Should I switch to a MJD instead?
Without the cap booster I run out of cap at 2.10min I'm guess with MWD on.
Ragarak Utama
The Quafe
#22 - 2017-05-08 12:22:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ragarak Utama
Time ago I used to fly Raven Navy without rigors (even then it used to be ok), but with more skills you can fit omni-tank, around 900-1k dps + rigors (so dmg application boost), TP and guidance computer, cap stable. It will smash everything, from battleships to small frigs.
RNI has trait to missile velocity so in my opinion it's one of the best choices for l4, especially if you've already made some steps towards caldari.


PS: For 99% of missions you don't need MJD/AB/MWD, there are only few where you will need to refit. MJD comes in when you're not cap stable and you're not skilled enough to withstand all dps standing still:)
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#23 - 2017-05-25 17:43:10 UTC
Grow a pair of balls and use a torp rattler with heavy drones.
JC Mieyli
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2017-05-25 18:30:31 UTC
yup rattler is the strongest mission running ship
mach is fastest though
paladinseems good but probably too slow and boring with the bastion module
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#25 - 2017-05-25 21:51:43 UTC
Honestly apart from the oddball tractor bonus marauders seem more like pvp ships than pve. I can't even remember the last time I saw a marauder that wasn't packing neuts and a scram.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#26 - 2017-05-26 00:59:57 UTC
paladin is awesome, does 1100 dps out to ~70km in bastion with a ton of falloff on top, and same dps with a little less range out of bastion. with the insane range and a MJD you can move all over the pocket and still apply damage. also you can just fit a mwd and have enough mobility to move around. nothing boring about the paladin.

rattler does crazy damage and can have a great tank, but has awful mobility. I usually use a mjd and auto-targeting missiles to afk missions. I do need to upgrade the rigs on mine as I went pure missile application, a t2 drone range rig would be nice especially with the mjd. I wouldn't use torps, way too short range and bad application. and I'm pretty meh on heavy drones, they are just too slow. I do always carry a gecko to wreck frigs (and really anything else) that get too close but it has to be close otherwise the travel time between targets means low effective dps.

mach is love mach is just great. I use mach the most. I have 2 in most of my mission stations one for arty one for ac. much faster to just swap ships than swap fits. Mach hulls are damn cheap compared to what they used to be and I typically go with inexpensive fits.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2017-05-31 22:58:19 UTC
I've used a few different ships for L4's

Raven, Rokh, Megathron, Dominix, Rattlesnake, Gila, Ishtar & Tengu

They all handle them easily (rattlesnake performs much better in bonus room of Angel Extravaganza)
You don't need fancy faction modules, T2 is more than enough.

focus dps & application as primary concerns on your load-outs
tank can be left as secondary

The Amarr & Minmattar versions of the standard BS's will perform in a similar manner
If you want to push it a little, some AF's can manage them too, just takes a lot longer so it's not isk/hr friendly
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