EVE General Discussion

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To summarize:

1) Nullsec players complain about carebears never PvPing.
2) Nullsec players grief endlessly to "help" carebears learn to move to 0.0, cause out there its "totally awesome bro"
3) Carebear responds to griefer "stimulus", decides his bearing days are over, asks for help becoming a PvPer.
4) Nullsec player complains that carebear is merely whining for attention and needs to GTFO.

In no other game will you enjoy the privilege of being harassed by other players, actually decide do what they say they want you to do, and than receive even more harassment.

Don't forget everyone, THIS is what they all say makes EvE so unique and special!! Its so "hardcore" that real badasses can pretend they're in fight club and ignore those who want to play while hypocritically complaining that they're not "actually" playing in the first place.

That's why we're all here right? Certainly not to build empires, topple empires, tell stories, strive to become the best PvP pilot, run your own business, or any of that other ******** stuff people do when they're bored of antagonizing noobs.

You missed step 3.5) Carebear refuses to accept advice to help him adapt.

Sorry, but you shouldn't even have to adapt in a game claiming to be a sandbox.

this is ok everybody I joined losec corp toinght

Didn't say you had to cater. Just said you have to deal with me and mine. And you keep missing the important word when you describe the Multiplayer Sandbox that is EvE.

Here's a really good post on the subject.

"You cannot PvP in Caldari ships" is in NO WAY advice that helps anyone "adapt".

It is narrow-minded horseshit.

There are plenty of viable Caldari ships that can be PvP'd with, even if your alliance hasn't taught you how to fly them yet.

this seems a little bit strange to me.

So you have trained Caldari skills up to "good" in addition to some "productive skills".
Sounds good, because you trained 4 years long (?). Some of you skills must be somehow outstanding.

Now some 0-sec-corporations do not accept your application, because you've trained the "wrong" skills?

Where's the problem to just train these required skills from now on? If the adressed 0-sec-corp still refuses to accept you, then (my conclusion) they also do not want newbies, because they also start from Zero.

I read some statements some months ago - if i rember right, from an official page here - like: "You can't train the wrong skills. There are only skills, you haven't trained so far."

With that in mind, i suggest one of the followings:

* pause the training queue for "Naga" for some time. It's not lost. You may pick up it again later on. Maybe some time in the future CCP mades some rebalancing and suddenly your skills are relevant.
* seek for another 0-sec-corporation, who have use for you current professions and skills.
* stay whereever you are now until you trained your "Naga"
* look for a low-sec-corporation

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An additional remark: In my opinnion it should be irrelevant, from which country a player cames from as long as he/she is able to communicate with the others.

Only thing to consider seems to be the time zones, depending on the goals of the corporation.

Thanks Tallian, Ruby -

And this is exactly why many of us just don't find nullsec thrilling. In lowsec, the lack of the massive fleet battles means that corps don't have to rely on specified doctrines to achieve victory, and players can make use of the skill points they have rather than being forced to wait to crosstrain to become useful.

The result is frequent, smaller scale PvP that is both fun, challenging, and can be done in a much wider variety of ships.

I don't think its unreasonable to ask alliance members to fly certain ships to protect their territory, but that's exactly space outside of nullsec is important to develop as well, in the interest of providing cutting-edge PvP in all flavors.

I only say this because there's still a bunch of folks out there hung up on the idea that EvE is all about 0.0 and that those who don't move to 0.0 are somehow risk-adverse or have carebear tendencies.

I think its best that when PvE players are at a cross-roads like the OP was that they understand that there are just as many things (like forced ship compositions) that make nullsec not very fun, and that if he's looking for quality PvP training that lowsec is just as good a place to apply.

You managed to post something so dumb that I actually dropped a few IQ points because I read it. Now I have to go watch reality television.

Then stop. Quit trying to join corps full of snobs with sticks up their arses and go make a name for yourself in a less prestigious corp. There is PVP everywhere in null. There is no such thing as a "non" pvp corp there - at least not for long. Any corp that claims to be so uber-leet that they don't need a new body in the fleet is probably full of some idiot's ego and nothing more. You will not learn anything there except to suck up to said ego. Join a mediocre corp in a big alliance and participate. There will be more CTAs than you can handle and more roams than you can handle.

The problem seems to be you want to be told what to do. Then when they tell you to f-off you don't like it. Stop trying to be what you think others want you to be.