EVE General Discussion

Bounty systems is easily abusable to the point it can provide an income to the person being targeted. Despite that there is no real incentive without a reasonable bounty for people to attempt to make it a profit when they operate in the safety margins of low operating costs to make their suciding profitable.

besides, kind of missing the point:

Griefers initiate this battle usually by attacking soft targets that have no guns and they have deemed to easily make a big profit from with minimal losses to themselves, idiot.

And thusly having to then use a merc corp with ridiculously sums as you sugest to do the job a bounty system should provide isnt really worth it is it? Hence the lack of use. Besides mercs usually operate under the use of a war dec, which your average griefer will simply avoid using an NPC corporate toon or by corp hopping or dropping.

I'll add you to my list of cowards who wants to avoid the PvP a working bounty system should provide.

Whats the tally on this campaign so far?

About 2.5 I think, it's going well

Stop whining, quit EVE and go back to your rollercoaster MMO you used to play.

If you stay, please state the location, guess a lot of grievers want to play for free by killing you over and over again.

EDIT: OP is just stupid ******. If you think others are telling you how to play your game, you are doing something completely wrong. If you get ganked every time you undock from the station, you are doing something wrong. If you think you can play EVE without the risk of PvP, you are doing something wrong. If you resub 5 times so far to find out that nothing changed, why do you come back to complain (aka you are doing something wrong).

When OP finally unsubs and never comes back, YEAH, he finally did something right for the first time in his EVE life.

btw, don't even want your stuff how nice it might be, as all it will remind me of is the utterly stupid people who think EVE is a theme-park MMO where CCP hold their hands every single minute and kick any people with bad intentions in the balls.

Well I'm not trying to stop you from what you are doing. I'm trying to get some equality in the game systems. At present it is heavily biased as a result of broken systems in favour of the griefer. Details I provided earlier in this thread.

Yeah me too. I was hauling ass to move all my stuff to new house and of course left all my **** including clothes so i can carry moar. Then SUDDENLY DRAGON. Well I kill the draggon with my loin cloth and flame spell and contiune hauling my stuff to new house.

Then I do couple quests and SUDDENLY END GAME.

WTF

Nah.
You keep harping on about the bounty system as if it was part of any kind of retribution mechanic. It isn't. Wardecs and kill rights are. They are still working (well, kind of -- the victims have tried to have them nerfed on numerous occasions because they are so oblivious to how they would actually help their cause).
More accurately: it isn't a player policing system.
The player policing systems are still working (at least until the clueless and complacent victims manage to bully CCP into nerfing them).

Oh dear, we've reached that point in this have we. That's such a terrible analogy, comparing a game that is based on pixel spaceships shooting other pixel spaceships to any RL situation, let alone this one, is a very poor way to try and defend your argument.

It was bad enough that you keep using the word griefers but this is laughable. This is a game where people risk being attacked when they undock, even in high sec systems. If you take it so seriously then you really can't hope to get any fun out of the game no matter what you do. Miners can take steps to avoid the gankers, if they're unwilling to even try anything that would help them avoid being ganked do you expect the game to bend to the cries of a few lazy players who went to be completely safe?

Getting killed in eve is part of the game. You learn from it, and move on. Or you don't, rage, and unsub.

Personally though, i think that high-sec should be exactly that. If people want to sit around doing nothing, mining or whatever, they should be able to do that under the safety and protection of concord. Suicide ganking is really risk free. You're always going to gain more from it than the person you're destroying. Where is the "greater risk - greater reward" involved in that? All this is doing is effecting the core players of eve that are the majority. If they all unsubed, then this whole issue would be rendered pointless as the game would likely stop! Becides, isn't the economy of eve based on these players? Would PvP function without the materials and goods that empire bunnies produce?

Though its true that there are plenty of methods, tactics etc that can be taken to prevent or hamper the gankers, lots of the carebears are exactly that, Carebears! They don't know these tactics, and more importantly, they don't want to know. Thats PvP, exactly NOT what they are interested in. They perfer their pretty mining beams hitting rocks, or hauling, or whatever the hell carebears do for fun.

It seems to me this game is divided into two camps. The carebears, doing their quiet little thing in empire, making isk and wanting to be left alone, and the low/null sec players looking for a consistant flow of victims to fill their buckets with tasty tears. When they don't come willing to death against the franky greater experienced pvp players (often waiting just the otherside of low-sec), they come into high to sucicide gank pretty much anything that moves.

If the game is designed to allow people to learn in the safety of high, then move in time to low - null sec, then something is definately broken.

Doesn't seem right to me personally, but hell, my opinion is just a penny in the pond here.

You see this is where we have to disagree. If the negative security qualifier and "most wanted" list by Concord and the idea of a bounty system don't indicate a player policing system then you have to be pretty clueless yourself.

It would be pointless nerfing the bounty system further, as its useless already. tehe.

Please indicate where CCP are being "bullied"? Or are you just scared that CCP might actually listen to the playerbase about the subject? But then I guess you have to be right, its ridiculous to expect your opinions are less valid than others.

Please continue to tell us to adapt and control the game, as you seem incapable of even accepting it as possibility.