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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#9441 - 2017-05-01 13:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Linus Gorp wrote:
My reasons and motivations for my actions are nothing you or anyone else would ever be able to comprehend.


Really, and there was me thinking that you detailed your thoughts and motivations on that post in C&P. Delusional and irrationality comes to mind... and yet you think you can go around calling people cry babies when they have an issue with AFK play.

Let me repeat it so that both of you can get it, it is the AFK part which is the issue and the good news is that CCP will fix it.

As for local, if you lot are so poor that you need to remove local or have a delayed local than what can I say, plenty of people get kills without changing local, you are not hunters, you are easy kill players who would be better suited to FPS games.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

ripper1 Tivianne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9442 - 2017-05-01 19:23:39 UTC
I have been playing this game for a good few years now, and still can't work out why some one would waste the money/isk to sit in a system day after day cloaked up!


I'm tired of this bs now i can not enjoy the game the way i used to ( and yes i know cloak's have been in the game for a long time)


CCP you lose in the end as player's start to un sub and move on to other game......Cry
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9443 - 2017-05-02 01:33:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, guess that settles that. AFK cloaking is not a problem as it does not stop people from ratting even with cloaky campers, PL cloaky campers no less.

Oh, and of course we see Dracvlad being his usual self. Please Dracvlad, tell us how awesome you really are. Roll


You seem to think that anyone who makes a point against AFK cloaky camping is paralysed in fear and unable to deal with it, it is ingrained within your small troll like mind. It seriously impacts ISK generation which is pretty obvious, however if one wants to hang tough and just do as a strong minded player it is quite easy to do.

It is cretins like you who tried to make it into you cry babies can't handle it, but for me it was never the case because my fun is to oppose lame asses. So cry more please, and you know what happened when you came into the pocket where I was, my alliance mates killed your SB alt and your Proteus fled very quickly..., as I said saying is one thing, doing is another and you never came back did you, I laughed a lot at that SB loss you had, I really did. Big smile


You are such an idiot. No, my point was that since you are managing your own little fleet and ratting just fine AFK cloaking is not an issue. I was actually pointing out that you are doing it right. But you are such a **** heel you just can see that. But never fear you have insulated yourself from this response because you are such a **** heel, little bubble boy. You are such a complete idiot you can't see you are making my point. An active defense force doing what it should to defend it's space has little to fear from ATK let along AFK cloaking ships. Dumbass.

BTW, how come you aren't having your wife post how awesome you are?

Jackass.

Edit: What is even more disgusting is you are trying to take credit for the work of your alliance members. You are such a complete ego maniac you just can't let anyone have some success without trying to step in and claim at least some of that credit. You are absolutely pathetic. Maybe you need that creep Herzog to come and make you feel manly. Roll

Edit II: Oh, and that wasn't my SB loss butt brain.


I rather enjoyed your reply...




Don't be too hard on him Drac. He might take it out on his service dog or something.

Teckos you are in that mode again. Take a step back bro. Breathe a little.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#9444 - 2017-05-02 04:08:26 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, guess that settles that. AFK cloaking is not a problem as it does not stop people from ratting even with cloaky campers, PL cloaky campers no less.

Oh, and of course we see Dracvlad being his usual self. Please Dracvlad, tell us how awesome you really are. Roll


You seem to think that anyone who makes a point against AFK cloaky camping is paralysed in fear and unable to deal with it, it is ingrained within your small troll like mind. It seriously impacts ISK generation which is pretty obvious, however if one wants to hang tough and just do as a strong minded player it is quite easy to do.

It is cretins like you who tried to make it into you cry babies can't handle it, but for me it was never the case because my fun is to oppose lame asses. So cry more please, and you know what happened when you came into the pocket where I was, my alliance mates killed your SB alt and your Proteus fled very quickly..., as I said saying is one thing, doing is another and you never came back did you, I laughed a lot at that SB loss you had, I really did. Big smile


You are such an idiot. No, my point was that since you are managing your own little fleet and ratting just fine AFK cloaking is not an issue. I was actually pointing out that you are doing it right. But you are such a **** heel you just can see that. But never fear you have insulated yourself from this response because you are such a **** heel, little bubble boy. You are such a complete idiot you can't see you are making my point. An active defense force doing what it should to defend it's space has little to fear from ATK let along AFK cloaking ships. Dumbass.

BTW, how come you aren't having your wife post how awesome you are?

Jackass.

Edit: What is even more disgusting is you are trying to take credit for the work of your alliance members. You are such a complete ego maniac you just can't let anyone have some success without trying to step in and claim at least some of that credit. You are absolutely pathetic. Maybe you need that creep Herzog to come and make you feel manly. Roll

Edit II: Oh, and that wasn't my SB loss butt brain.


I rather enjoyed your reply...




Don't be too hard on him Drac. He might take it out on his service dog or something.

Teckos you are in that mode again. Take a step back bro. Breathe a little.


And we get the creepy stalker too. If only Dracvlad's wife would show up it would be a trifecta. Roll

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#9445 - 2017-05-02 05:36:34 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, guess that settles that. AFK cloaking is not a problem as it does not stop people from ratting even with cloaky campers, PL cloaky campers no less.

Oh, and of course we see Dracvlad being his usual self. Please Dracvlad, tell us how awesome you really are. Roll


You seem to think that anyone who makes a point against AFK cloaky camping is paralysed in fear and unable to deal with it, it is ingrained within your small troll like mind. It seriously impacts ISK generation which is pretty obvious, however if one wants to hang tough and just do as a strong minded player it is quite easy to do.

It is cretins like you who tried to make it into you cry babies can't handle it, but for me it was never the case because my fun is to oppose lame asses. So cry more please, and you know what happened when you came into the pocket where I was, my alliance mates killed your SB alt and your Proteus fled very quickly..., as I said saying is one thing, doing is another and you never came back did you, I laughed a lot at that SB loss you had, I really did. Big smile


You are such an idiot. No, my point was that since you are managing your own little fleet and ratting just fine AFK cloaking is not an issue. I was actually pointing out that you are doing it right. But you are such a **** heel you just can see that. But never fear you have insulated yourself from this response because you are such a **** heel, little bubble boy. You are such a complete idiot you can't see you are making my point. An active defense force doing what it should to defend it's space has little to fear from ATK let along AFK cloaking ships. Dumbass.

BTW, how come you aren't having your wife post how awesome you are?

Jackass.

Edit: What is even more disgusting is you are trying to take credit for the work of your alliance members. You are such a complete ego maniac you just can't let anyone have some success without trying to step in and claim at least some of that credit. You are absolutely pathetic. Maybe you need that creep Herzog to come and make you feel manly. Roll

Edit II: Oh, and that wasn't my SB loss butt brain.


That was such a salty reply, as soon as you refute their comments about being a cry baby or not being able to deal with a cloaky camper Roll they immediately start on the oh you are telling us how great you are RollShocked

AFK is the issue you dumb feck and CCP agrees with us, all hail the great uncloaking wave which will only hurt AFK play... and they are not going to remove or delay local.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#9446 - 2017-05-02 05:38:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Don't be too hard on him Drac. He might take it out on his service dog or something.

Teckos you are in that mode again. Take a step back bro. Breathe a little.


He certainly was salty...

PS Teckos you are blocked, but every so often I take a peak for a good laugh especially when people quote you, you are like Jenn a'Snide both of you have to be on the forums to tell everyone how good you are at things completely unrelated to the matter at hand, you troll for that reason, to appear superior to others and yet you call for a nerf to local that will make hunting so easy because you are fecking useless. I went through your killboard, you cannot even gank efficiently and when you came into MB your scout died and you never came back.

You make your ISK out of station trading so AFK cloaky camping does not impact you and yet you troll all over this thread, for me you are comedy gold. Does that help Mr Troll.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#9447 - 2017-05-02 05:56:25 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Well, guess that settles that. AFK cloaking is not a problem as it does not stop people from ratting even with cloaky campers, PL cloaky campers no less.

Oh, and of course we see Dracvlad being his usual self. Please Dracvlad, tell us how awesome you really are. Roll


You seem to think that anyone who makes a point against AFK cloaky camping is paralysed in fear and unable to deal with it, it is ingrained within your small troll like mind. It seriously impacts ISK generation which is pretty obvious, however if one wants to hang tough and just do as a strong minded player it is quite easy to do.

It is cretins like you who tried to make it into you cry babies can't handle it, but for me it was never the case because my fun is to oppose lame asses. So cry more please, and you know what happened when you came into the pocket where I was, my alliance mates killed your SB alt and your Proteus fled very quickly..., as I said saying is one thing, doing is another and you never came back did you, I laughed a lot at that SB loss you had, I really did. Big smile


You are such an idiot. No, my point was that since you are managing your own little fleet and ratting just fine AFK cloaking is not an issue. I was actually pointing out that you are doing it right. But you are such a **** heel you just can see that. But never fear you have insulated yourself from this response because you are such a **** heel, little bubble boy. You are such a complete idiot you can't see you are making my point. An active defense force doing what it should to defend it's space has little to fear from ATK let along AFK cloaking ships. Dumbass.

BTW, how come you aren't having your wife post how awesome you are?

Jackass.

Edit: What is even more disgusting is you are trying to take credit for the work of your alliance members. You are such a complete ego maniac you just can't let anyone have some success without trying to step in and claim at least some of that credit. You are absolutely pathetic. Maybe you need that creep Herzog to come and make you feel manly. Roll

Edit II: Oh, and that wasn't my SB loss butt brain.


That was such a salty reply, as soon as you refute their comments about being a cry baby or not being able to deal with a cloaky camper Roll they immediately start on the oh you are telling us how great you are RollShocked

AFK is the issue you dumb feck and CCP agrees with us, all hail the great uncloaking wave which will only hurt AFK play... and they are not going to remove or delay local.


So much for blocking me. You do know I find it endlessly amusing when you respond as it shows what a lie your little signature is.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#9448 - 2017-05-02 20:50:50 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
AFK is the issue you dumb feck and CCP agrees with us, all hail the great uncloaking wave which will only hurt AFK play... and they are not going to remove or delay local.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

The current CCP devs aren't yet ******** enough to make nullsec even safer than it already is. You get your uncloaking thingy at the cost of local and nothing else.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9449 - 2017-05-02 22:56:17 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Don't be too hard on him Drac. He might take it out on his service dog or something.

Teckos you are in that mode again. Take a step back bro. Breathe a little.


He certainly was salty...

PS Teckos you are blocked, but every so often I take a peak for a good laugh especially when people quote you, you are like Jenn a'Snide both of you have to be on the forums to tell everyone how good you are at things completely unrelated to the matter at hand, you troll for that reason, to appear superior to others and yet you call for a nerf to local that will make hunting so easy because you are fecking useless. I went through your killboard, you cannot even gank efficiently and when you came into MB your scout died and you never came back.

You make your ISK out of station trading so AFK cloaky camping does not impact you and yet you troll all over this thread, for me you are comedy gold. Does that help Mr Troll.



Good find. Yes the loudest of them are also the least of them. One thing I give CODE. credit for is the same nefarious nabobs I meet in the forums I have exchanged fire with in space (or their alts - appears the names change after a while).

I do enjoy Techos Salt™ but use it sparingly as most of it is crystalized urea.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#9450 - 2017-05-03 04:59:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Linus Gorp wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
AFK is the issue you dumb feck and CCP agrees with us, all hail the great uncloaking wave which will only hurt AFK play... and they are not going to remove or delay local.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

The current CCP devs aren't yet ******** enough to make nullsec even safer than it already is. You get your uncloaking thingy at the cost of local and nothing else.


You are that useless as a hunter that you need a delayed local or no local, what can I say other than you are a useless feck. Actually you are because you don't play the game any more.


If CCP change local they need to change the cyno mechanism, by either having a long delay before the ships arrive on grid, or that the ships end up at a random location on the grid, that will work for game balance, but in this game generally if you are tackled you are likely to die. I am not against a delay for the system sensor net to pick up the ID of a ship coming via a WH but it would require a specific module fitted to delay the sensor net, but jumping a gate no, because the ship ID has to be accepted before the ship jumps.

In any case local in sov space will be an OA whch useless fecks like you will be unable to destroy because it is too hard...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#9451 - 2017-05-03 05:38:44 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

PS Teckos you are blocked, but every so often I take a peak for a good laugh especially when people quote you, you are like Jenn a'Snide both of you have to be on the forums to tell everyone how good you are at things completely unrelated to the matter at hand, you troll for that reason, to appear superior to others and yet you call for a nerf to local that will make hunting so easy because you are fecking useless. I went through your killboard, you cannot even gank efficiently and when you came into MB your scout died and you never came back.

You make your ISK out of station trading so AFK cloaky camping does not impact you and yet you troll all over this thread, for me you are comedy gold. Does that help Mr Troll.


First, no I do not do station trading, I find it just too boring. Perhaps if you were not blocking me you'd know I make my ISK via invention and PI.

Second, I came to your pocket as it was active. Didn't even realize it was in anyway connected to you. Didn't come back because I've recently switched corps and alliances and going out on various fleets has kept me busy. And as I indicated the response was correct and effective. See you are mistaking my dislike for your obvious narcissism as a dislike for people in your corp or alliance. My comment that AFK or ATK cloaking is not a problem for people who know how to deal with it. Why you found that wrong or insulting I don't know, but I'll just chalk it up to your narcissism or Herzog having his nose too far up your posterior.

As for hunting and cloaks and local, I have already stated a number of times that I don't mind if the OA can, in some configurations, provide better intel than local. After all, it is a vulnerable structure and players should be able to secure their space. So on that point you are again wrong.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#9452 - 2017-05-03 06:38:28 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
You are that useless as a hunter that you need a delayed local or no local, what can I say other than you are a useless feck. Actually you are because you don't play the game any more.

Delayed local and no local both serve the case of hunting bots in particular. It's almost impossible catching bots as it is and especially drone region space is full of them.

I'm also able to hunt with the status quo, but having to jump around for 3 hours straight and not find anything at all because everyone saw me coming from 20 jumps away isn't fun and neither is it balanced. At all.

The only option we have to counter that is AFK cloaking, but you just don't get that into your tiny little peanut brain.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#9453 - 2017-05-03 09:40:01 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
You are that useless as a hunter that you need a delayed local or no local, what can I say other than you are a useless feck. Actually you are because you don't play the game any more.

Delayed local and no local both serve the case of hunting bots in particular. It's almost impossible catching bots as it is and especially drone region space is full of them.

I'm also able to hunt with the status quo, but having to jump around for 3 hours straight and not find anything at all because everyone saw me coming from 20 jumps away isn't fun and neither is it balanced. At all.

The only option we have to counter that is AFK cloaking, but you just don't get that into your tiny little peanut brain.


CCP is supposed to remove bots.

Also there are many gaps in local intel systems and it is not passive intel either, people have to participate.

AFK play is wrong period because there is no counter except that CCP at last is going to have a de-cloaking wave, the active ones can re-cloak, which is fine. Be active no issue and that is why you have a peanut brain.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9454 - 2017-05-03 10:20:45 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:


CCP is supposed to remove bots.

Also there are many gaps in local intel systems and it is not passive intel either, people have to participate.

AFK play is wrong period because there is no counter except that CCP at last is going to have a de-cloaking wave, the active ones can re-cloak, which is fine. Be active no issue and that is why you have a peanut brain.


The reality is that if you decide to go hunting in the dronelands anything paying the slightest attention to the intel channels will be docked up long before you can get to them. AFK cloaking is the only way to catch these people and they make up the bulk of the population.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#9455 - 2017-05-03 11:23:32 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
You are that useless as a hunter that you need a delayed local or no local, what can I say other than you are a useless feck. Actually you are because you don't play the game any more.

Delayed local and no local both serve the case of hunting bots in particular. It's almost impossible catching bots as it is and especially drone region space is full of them.

I'm also able to hunt with the status quo, but having to jump around for 3 hours straight and not find anything at all because everyone saw me coming from 20 jumps away isn't fun and neither is it balanced. At all.

The only option we have to counter that is AFK cloaking, but you just don't get that into your tiny little peanut brain.


CCP is supposed to remove bots.

Also there are many gaps in local intel systems and it is not passive intel either, people have to participate.

AFK play is wrong period because there is no counter except that CCP at last is going to have a de-cloaking wave, the active ones can re-cloak, which is fine. Be active no issue and that is why you have a peanut brain.

Ever heard of intel bots? Those players just sitting around in a pod or cloaky somewhere in system, 24/7, never moving, never doing anything? Yep, those are bots automatically reporting hostiles.
Fighting bots is a continuous uphill battle. Just take a look at Jita local and then tell me with a straight face CCP is winning that.

Your "decloaking pulse" would also hamper staging cloaky fleets in hostile territory and those people are not afk.

AFAIK, CCP hasn't released any credible information about observatory arrays or how they're going to change the system, so all you have is wishful dreaming of your carebear heaven that will never make it into reality.


I'll go back to completely ignoring you since frankly you're even too stupid to count 1 and 1 together, as you prove again and again. Just a whiny little baby with near-zero intelligence and no prospect to ever accomplish anything at all in life. You're a waste of space, time and resources, nothing more.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#9456 - 2017-05-03 11:50:59 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Ever heard of intel bots? Those players just sitting around in a pod or cloaky somewhere in system, 24/7, never moving, never doing anything? Yep, those are bots automatically reporting hostiles.
Fighting bots is a continuous uphill battle. Just take a look at Jita local and then tell me with a straight face CCP is winning that.

Your "decloaking pulse" would also hamper staging cloaky fleets in hostile territory and those people are not afk.

AFAIK, CCP hasn't released any credible information about observatory arrays or how they're going to change the system, so all you have is wishful dreaming of your carebear heaven that will never make it into reality.


I'll go back to completely ignoring you since frankly you're even too stupid to count 1 and 1 together, as you prove again and again. Just a whiny little baby with near-zero intelligence and no prospect to ever accomplish anything at all in life. You're a waste of space, time and resources, nothing more.



I have heard of them but me and all the people I play with don't use bots, I don't see why I have to have my gameplay ruined by CCP not being able to remove them, I really do not care for that sort of argument, we do not use bots, so why do we get screwed over just because CCP fail to do their job.

It is CCP's pulse and people who are active will just cloak again, no issue.

What am I whining about, I am not asking for local to be removed or a delay on local applied because I am not able to get on people, that is people like you, I am camped by PL at the moment and enjoying the hell out of it, no whining from me. That is because I can easily rat with them in local. Because you have your ears blocked, your eyes closed you fail to notice that my entire issue is with AFK play because I cannot interact with them by baiting them and I waste my time in doing so. So calling me a carebear makes you look like a raging idiot, block me please because you are so bad at this.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9457 - 2017-05-03 12:20:57 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
You are that useless as a hunter that you need a delayed local or no local, what can I say other than you are a useless feck. Actually you are because you don't play the game any more.

Delayed local and no local both serve the case of hunting bots in particular. It's almost impossible catching bots as it is and especially drone region space is full of them.

I'm also able to hunt with the status quo, but having to jump around for 3 hours straight and not find anything at all because everyone saw me coming from 20 jumps away isn't fun and neither is it balanced. At all.

The only option we have to counter that is AFK cloaking, but you just don't get that into your tiny little peanut brain.


CCP is supposed to remove bots.

Also there are many gaps in local intel systems and it is not passive intel either, people have to participate.

AFK play is wrong period because there is no counter except that CCP at last is going to have a de-cloaking wave, the active ones can re-cloak, which is fine. Be active no issue and that is why you have a peanut brain.

The biggest problem with the whole stop AFK Cloaking while leaving ATK Cloaking alone is a very simple bot to reactivate the Cloaking device.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#9458 - 2017-05-04 05:41:09 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
That is because I can easily rat with them in local.


And thus you prove that nothing is wrong with AFK cloaking. You know they're AFK, you ignore them, and life goes on. The solution, instead of whining about AFK cloaking, is for more people to figure out how to do this.

Quote:
I cannot interact with them by baiting them and I waste my time in doing so.


You also "waste your time" if they're smart enough to avoid your bait, and from your point of view there is absolutely no way to tell the difference between a player that is AFK and a player that knows you're baiting and declines to take the bait. In fact, how do you even know that you're wasting your time baiting AFK players? You sure seem to be doing a lot of complaining for someone who can't possibly know that the people they're whining about are actually AFK.
Xcom
Eclipse Strike Unit
Jump On Contact..
#9459 - 2017-05-04 05:56:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Xcom
It takes a very special snowflake to exploit the cloaking mechanic to the point of logging in for months just to stick it to the other guy at the end of the barrel. Why would such a disgusting nolife behavior even be defended. I'm surprised how some people jump to defend quite literally what I would explain as, digital harassment supported by loophole mechanics.

Get a life
and to whoever defends this sick exploit, turn off your pc and enjoy your life, you need it.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#9460 - 2017-05-04 06:17:07 UTC
Merin Ryskin wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
That is because I can easily rat with them in local.


And thus you prove that nothing is wrong with AFK cloaking. You know they're AFK, you ignore them, and life goes on. The solution, instead of whining about AFK cloaking, is for more people to figure out how to do this.

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I cannot interact with them by baiting them and I waste my time in doing so.


You also "waste your time" if they're smart enough to avoid your bait, and from your point of view there is absolutely no way to tell the difference between a player that is AFK and a player that knows you're baiting and declines to take the bait. In fact, how do you even know that you're wasting your time baiting AFK players? You sure seem to be doing a lot of complaining for someone who can't possibly know that the people they're whining about are actually AFK.


You don't read what people post, you just cherry pick to say what you think, that is why you are totally dishonest in every post.

I have explained the issues with AFK cloaky camping and the damaging impact it has, CCP have a de-cloaking wave idea which they will implement, which will deal with AFK if they also police the use of bots to re-cloak. I hope that they use the ban hammer very hard on this.

When I talk about ratting with them in local it is because I know what they have and what they can do, because I gathered my intel on them over time, I know at this point who is active and who is not and that enables me to help keep the ADM's up but the issue is that it is not optimal for ISK generation. That is not an issue for me as I do not PLEX, I pay with real money, so I am not desperate to rat to fund my game.

Baiting them really depends on who you dealing with, some groups you can bait and kill and others like PL you just avoid because of their escalation abilities., of course an idiot like you cannot tell the difference, but that is because you don't do this.

The most amusing part for me is that the cloaky camper with his toons marked with the same name Orcling but with 01 to 10 at the end keeps forgetting to cloak when he rushes off to work and it is rather amusing because from that we got his time perfectly well sussed, Orcling04 was the important one, I sensor damped him for lol.s. Shocked

As I said before with skill injectors it makes it really easy to create a clean character which only incompetence or actual use will expose the intel. So be a smart ass if you want with stupid posts, but the reality is you made yourself look dumb.

Anyway CCP will add the de-cloaking wave and they will not change local, done and dusted, it is really now a question of when will they actually do it.

Back to ignoring your feeble minded troll posts...

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