EVE General Discussion

Every one who thinks EVE is being made too friendly for new players or for lack of a better term "Dumbed down" try to remember 13 years ago EVE had 5 ship classes, like 1/10th the modules. And about 1/8th the other stuff like dictors, gang bonuses, Alliances. Just to put it in perspective.

but back then there was hardly any documentation to go with it, these days everyone seems to have a guide for something. New players even get free ships from the career agents, I got an ibis and a you're on your own.

It's a tricky balance. The people who have been here forever want more challenging and difficult content and mechanics. It's still extremely overwhelming for newer players, however, despite all of the NPE stuff they've done. Most of the older players I know recognize both of those statements as true. The truth is that it's a tough job on both fronts.

Most of the development effort seems to be on working on making EvE more complex. I think it would be worth considering making starter systems contain more kinds of special cased space to help newer players along and give the super risk adverse a place to build their lame little sand castles. For example, long but easy missions you can run with multiple acceleration gates / deadspace, making player ships invulnerable to one another, wider types of NPC encounters. I mean it would e carebear stupid and easy, and the rewards should be nothing... but some people seem to go for that. Maybe create a spectra of "civilian" class ships restricted to the starter systems that include BC, BS, even civilian caps. Sould solve some new player apprehension. Later when they are familiar enough with the game to join decent chat channels more established players can shame them out of staying there.

On the other side of the coin, I think CCP is already on the right track with their new sov structures, citadels, and player made jump gates. Conceptually, and from I've read, it might even coax me out of my empire ganking. It has the potential to make null very exciting and interesting again.

I think CCP should focus on making EVE easier to understand, not just easier in general.

Eve will never cater to everyone or else it will fail at everything. Some changes are meh others are good, like real life imo. I enjoyed that heres a ship go F yourself of figuring things out myself. I dislike the amount of guides now available and I hate giving up information to newbros and am always juggling how much I should spoon feed and how much I should let them figure it out for themselves while chatting to people in game.

What Id love to see with the NPE is the WiS groundschool stuff but that would take a while to actually create so we shall see if it happens. That new capsuleer creation trailer video got me hard though. Its exactly what Im talking about. Transferring the theme park cut scene, mostly a playable movie crowd, into hardened capsuleers bent on ruthless destruction of their enemies. But I enjoy where its going atm so Im content to wait and see a bit there.

I realize that people like me are a very small minority even in real life so I tend not to expect to much that I like to continue for long as most of it is unpopular at best.

Opinion is what you think of the given situation, perspective is what you think of the given situation, based on what it was like before, so its not quite the same, but kinda close ;)

But putting something thats evolving in perspective, is always better then just stating an oppinion without thinking about the past.

But we haz achievements now.
for every little damned thing
shoot me

Back in the good old days...

...survivorship bias already was a thing.

With a retention rate below 10%, you'd bet that whoever plays the game long enough to think about the "good old days" will be a fringe case.

1 million players start playing a game; 10 years later, all of 1,000 survivors agree that back then everything was better and "kids have it too easy now". Guess the developers and the other 999,000 players would disagree on a couple of things...

And none of the guides, websites, and explanations that we have today. I recall finding and article where a guy had tested the remote sensor damps in game, recorded the observations, and then using some fairly sophisticated non-linear methods figured out the formula CCP was using for electronic warfare modules.

Is it easier now? IDK, maybe not, but it is not clear it is harder either.

SC targets the levels that were first imagined by people at CCP. Well, if you take into account all their promises.

At the end, who knows how it would look, its like watching into pool of water and predicting past. Doesnt have sense really. 😅