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500 mil to join Goonswarm Federation?

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Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2017-05-02 19:04:10 UTC
It's so wonderful to see how many faces our glorious Imperium has.

*spits*

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Salt Foambreaker
Greedy Pirates
#22 - 2017-05-02 19:06:26 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
I have absolutely no ties to Goonswarm, but as others pointed out there where some scammers in the past who tricked people into giving them ISK.

Don't accept the offer if he is not willing to jump your stuff out to null. Once you have contracted all your stuff over and it is on its way to null you can safely pay the 500mil ISK and join them in nullsec.

The only sensible advice in this thread imo.


Wut?

Am i missing something or is this actually really bad advice?


It's perfect, having snitched OP feels better. Pirate
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#23 - 2017-05-02 22:07:29 UTC
Selphentine wrote:
You can also file a petiition, as impersonating (as recruiter for goons in this case) isnt allowed (anymore)


Wut? Please quote EULA for me.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#24 - 2017-05-02 23:09:08 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Selphentine wrote:
You can also file a petiition, as impersonating (as recruiter for goons in this case) isnt allowed (anymore)


Wut? Please quote EULA for me.


If the cat was impersonating an actual recruiter it would fall under this,

2, B Passwords and Names.

No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Keno Skir
#25 - 2017-05-03 00:08:22 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
anyone in EVE the it's your

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#26 - 2017-05-03 00:11:45 UTC
March rabbit wrote:

Google 'Goonswarm recruiting scam'. You will find very interesting story Blink

The recruitment scams, and the public larfing about them, were a big reason Goons used to be considered the nasty and outrageous people of Eve. They were also considered the tasteless guys of Eve, but for other reasons. But that was around 2008 - 2011. Later they got civilized. But by that time a lot of other people were already copying them. So nasty, outrageous, and tasteless became just... meh, standard stuff.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#27 - 2017-05-03 01:01:24 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Axhind wrote:

Accepting advice from CODE is always bad.

Not sure what you mean. If you can trust anyone in EVE the it's your friendly New Order Agent
I completely trust CODE agents.

Trust them to take your money and then blow you up. Trust them to keep you bumped until their buddies show up. Trust them to say they are still (as if they've ever been) relevant in New Eden. Etc, etc, etc.

See. Lots of trust.

Mr Epeen Cool
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#28 - 2017-05-03 05:58:01 UTC
It's 2009 all over again

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Magnus Jax
#29 - 2017-05-03 06:56:29 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Axhind wrote:

Accepting advice from CODE is always bad.

Not sure what you mean. If you can trust anyone in EVE the it's your friendly New Order Agent
I completely trust CODE agents.

Trust them to take your money and then blow you up. Trust them to keep you bumped until their buddies show up. Trust them to say they are still (as if they've ever been) relevant in New Eden. Etc, etc, etc.

See. Lots of trust.

Mr Epeen Cool


Just trust them to be terrible, in everything.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#30 - 2017-05-03 07:53:39 UTC
Magnus Jax wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Trust them to say they are still (as if they've ever been) relevant in New Eden. Etc, etc, etc.
Just trust them to be terrible, in everything.

It's cute how you try to cheer each other up in the face of our superior killboard stats and all around supremacy.

You can cry all you want. The reality is that people in Highsec sing songs about our heroic deeds.
Selphentine
Pastafaris
#31 - 2017-05-03 09:17:57 UTC
Mh, i was pretty sure about that impersonate thing, but as i cant finde sources, ill just retract that statement.
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2017-05-03 11:49:23 UTC
Valkaarie wrote:
Hi, i will get straight to the point.....i am currently looking for a new corp/ home ...in the recruitment channel i posted my interest for looking for a new corp i was then contacted via private chat about joining a corp in the Goonswarm Fed after interesting me with what they could offer they made me apply via goonfleet.org once i registered i was then told that i was identified as a medium risk for some unknown reason to the alliance and in order to join i had to pay 500mil to get in the corp and alliance.

Is this common practice? as i thought i was a scam at the time... does anyone else know about this?

Thanks for reading


It is an in game scam. It is allowed as long as they don't break any of the EULA or Code of Conduct rules. If the person didn't say he's "an alt of X" or "member of a clan he isn't" or "recruiter for a clan he isn't" it's ok. If you have a lot of ISK, try it out,! It's like a "Nigerian Prince want to make you very rich scam". Also if you gave your API they will probably see your alts. Like when you have a "forum alt" or an alt in "TEST ALLIANCE Please Ignore", and they will probably not ignore that...

Please note that goonfleet.org is not affiliated with CCP in any way and thus be careful when giving them any private information or API keys or sending nude pics. Do not confuse RL websites even if they refer to EVE Online with the ingame content. If you scam outside the reach of CCP, local authorities have to be bothered with it and they don't have the time.
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2017-05-03 11:55:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Aedaxus
Selphentine wrote:
Mh, i was pretty sure about that impersonate thing, but as i cant finde sources, ill just retract that statement.


In 2013 Article 8 has been updated to further clarify our rules on impersonation of other entities in EVE Online. The old text pertaining to impersonation in Article 8 contained the following:

You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer

This has now been updated to read as follows, for further clarification of our policy on impersonation of third parties in EVE Online:

You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity.


So yes, if I say I'm a recruiter for Goonswarm and my alt is. There is no technical difference and I'll get "the spankering" from CCP.
The problem is that in RL law you need to have criminal intent to make the impersonation a crime. However in EVE online that does not have to prooven, only that person X syas he's person Y or a respresentative of such. Also they have to state that ingame.

PS: I'm not at all, it's just a bleeping example.
Salvos Rhoska
#34 - 2017-05-03 12:06:20 UTC
Pix Severus
Empty You
#35 - 2017-05-03 14:11:38 UTC
500m is a steal, you'll make that back within a week once you're in.

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Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2017-05-03 14:24:41 UTC
Two afternoons if you are a newbee like me, three for alphas.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#37 - 2017-05-03 14:31:01 UTC
Why would you want to join an alliance where they instantly try to scam you? I hear Dreddit is still recruiting, and they aren't allowed to scam newbros.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Selphentine
Pastafaris
#38 - 2017-05-03 19:01:10 UTC
Aedaxus wrote:
Selphentine wrote:
Mh, i was pretty sure about that impersonate thing, but as i cant finde sources, ill just retract that statement.


In 2013 Article 8 has been updated to further clarify our rules on impersonation of other entities in EVE Online. The old text pertaining to impersonation in Article 8 contained the following:

You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer

This has now been updated to read as follows, for further clarification of our policy on impersonation of third parties in EVE Online:

You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity.


So yes, if I say I'm a recruiter for Goonswarm and my alt is. There is no technical difference and I'll get "the spankering" from CCP.
The problem is that in RL law you need to have criminal intent to make the impersonation a crime. However in EVE online that does not have to prooven, only that person X syas he's person Y or a respresentative of such. Also they have to state that ingame.

PS: I'm not at all, it's just a bleeping example.


So i was right and you actually can petition this im from goonswarm give me 500 mil thing?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#39 - 2017-05-03 19:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Valkaarie wrote:
Hi, i will get straight to the point.....i am currently looking for a new corp/ home ...in the recruitment channel i posted my interest for looking for a new corp i was then contacted via private chat about joining a corp in the Goonswarm Fed after interesting me with what they could offer they made me apply via goonfleet.org once i registered i was then told that i was identified as a medium risk for some unknown reason to the alliance and in order to join i had to pay 500mil to get in the corp and alliance.

Is this common practice? as i thought i was a scam at the time... does anyone else know about this?

Thanks for reading

It is an intelligence test.

If you fall for it, you are a moron, and they won't recruit you.

The Goons recruitment scams are so infamous, you have to be really silly to not have Googled it, or how to properly join.

Never pay to join a corp, and always set collateral to at minimum the item(s) value with courier contracts (add at least 10% to the value for replacement inconvenience).
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2017-05-03 19:12:15 UTC
Selphentine wrote:
So i was right and you actually can petition this im from goonswarm give me 500 mil thing?

Well, I don't know the specifics of that particular incident. In doubt report it and CCP will evaluate neutrally with all information.
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