EVE General Discussion

So dumb. Such a lack of creative thinking (if such easy to figure out stuff could even be called that). I guess this is the ADHD thing with kids with 0 attention spans furiously typing into handheld devices and wanting everything handed to them.

I was flying my Nightmare through high-sec the other day. Got war dec'd. Promptly docked, dropped corp, undocked, and proceeded as normal. Right at the gate there were the war-deccers camped waiting on me. I smiled, waived, and continued on through the gate.

Was that SO HARD to figure out? Jeez Louis.

Let me quote from a minerbumping post from back then:

http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/code-wows-at-alliance-tournament.html


Anyway, thanks for confirming our victory Josef

Becuase this is a game about blowing up spaceships and you quite literally come to the forums and whine how you refuse to play it and would rather have it changed because you don't like it.

It seams you have no problem with the sandbox as long as it suits you and as long as you can get ISK from the market where the very demand you profit from is fueled by conflict. But if you become target of that conflict you think you should be able to completely isolate yourself and your friends, because "it's not what you want" while still being able to profit.

Well that is not how the game works. If you want to run a corporation you have to defend it. If you can't you don't deserve that corporation.

I can't understand why some people play a game which is quite obviously about shooting spaceships when they so vehemently are against such gameplay and rather than see the war as what it is, a potential for a whole lot of fun content and action, they rather come to the forum to whine about it.

Has it ever crossed your mind to even try to see this as an opportunity to get your friends back? Tell them that the corp is under siege and that they should come back and defend it if they are even remotely interested in keeping it. A war is something interesting and there are a ton of ways how you can have fun. That does not mean you have to win every fight or win at all. T1 setups are cheap and almost completely repay from insurance. There is literally nothing to lose. You probably mined for 13 years and have no idea what to do with all that ISK anyway, so why not have some fun with it?

There are a gazilion ways how to trick others into thinking they have the upper hand and trick them into a fight. And seriously if someone looks at your corp EVERY trap will look convincing.

Get some neutral scouts, learn where your enemy is and what he flies and trap him with a full counter. And if it does not work, the ships are cheap, you lost nothing, but gained a whole lot of insight into EVE PvP, had some fun and excitement while doing it and maybe even got some of your friends back into EVE.

You're being belittled because (as has been explained) you are suggesting the game is broken because you "don't want to" use the obvious mechanic that would save you.

Wrong again. We know that you refuse to adapt to the game mechanics, and want the game to change to suit someone who casually logs in every once in a while over a 13 year period.



I'm legitimately surprised by the amount of anti-wardec rhetoric getting upvoted in that thread. We are talking about the same subreddit community in which every single thread titled "new player looking for advice with X" has "join Dreddit / Horde / Karmafleet / Brave Newbies" as the top rated reply. Where did all these people that suddenly care about "small newbie corps growing organically in HS" come from? The vast majority of these threads need to have the top 2-5 comments minimized just to find the answer to OP's question because the community is too busy telling OP to join one of the large null entities and how once they do that they will find people that can help them.

Also, just for giggles to show how cherry picked that thread is for your argument, currently on the front page of reddit (top 25 posts):

15 threads related to combat (memes, videos, battle reports, propaganda, general PvP, wars, thunderdome)
8 threads on stuff outside the game client
1 thread on low sec LP
1 on HS war decs (the thread you linked)


reddit clearly is pro-war. They can use whatever words they want, but when well over half the posts are war or general PvP related, we've seen all we need to see.

13 years in the game:
- does not know what to do when wardecced
- does not know about corp and NPC taxes
- ...

Percy:

Talking about changing war mechanics is fine, but is not going to solve your problem today. Personally I think social corps with NPC-corp-like restrictions and taxes are a fair idea.

The truth is that it is your choice not to take any of these suggestions presented in this thread. None of them are undoable. They work. Some of the suggestions merely tweak your playstyle, keeping most of it intact. And, it is enjoyable to deny your enemies their cake.

Let me also suggest improving your fits and fitting all the slots on your ships (see your mining ships). Stop losing T2 ships to NPCs or at the very least disallow killmails from your account so no one sees them. Stop readily dying to suicide ganks like on April 16 when it happened twice on the same day in the same system.

Your corporation looks like it makes no attempt to learn the game or how to interact with players who have conflicting ambitions. Your corporation looks like a great target, honestly.

Do you, as the CEO, have what it takes to lead your members to safety and prosperity in the ever changing universe? Or will you dock up for weeks at a time and lament your freedom?

Sorry bub, but CCP stats prove you wrong on that.

Do you even know what risk/reward means? This is a metric to balance loot drop tables for NPC and resources and not to balance player interaction.

The only reason why we manage to destroy so much is that some players in Highsec are completely complacent and let their guard down.


sure.., you would cry even if it was a one man corp who wardeced you. Don't try to make you look like you are the poor underdog here. What you want is isolation from the sandbox when it suits you.


It is only unbalanced because you are not willing to prepare. I fight wars against whole alliances alone and have no issue because I prepare and care about how the game works.

Do you think "Come back and mine some ore with us for no reason or purpose" will bring them back? EVE is so much more fun if you have a real goal and something to fight for.


If people whine on the forums that is classified as whining yes. The true enemy you have is only yourself and your defeatist attitude and not the wardecers you face.

If you came to the forums to get advice how to defend, people would actually flock to the thread, support and teach you how to trick those guys into a trap. No one was born an EVE PvP expert, we all learned it by actually playing the game. Instead you chose to whine for a change of game mechanics in your favour.

I think we should build a wall around Highsec to keep the illegal miners out of our territory.

Check my bio, I even have a gold medal for winning said tournament.