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Kill this crappy bounty system....

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Cybertherion
Doomheim
#21 - 2017-04-29 15:48:56 UTC
Have you just simply tried paying someone to kill your enemy?

That's a bounty.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#22 - 2017-04-29 15:58:19 UTC
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
Bounty should be binded to a crime not to a dislike of a person......

what's wrong with putting a bounty on an enemy (aka dislike of a person)? surely giving an incentive to others to make their life harder is a good tactic.

that said the current bounty system is something of a joke, as many have said here no enemy would actually put a bounty on someone as no one actually "bounty hunts" and most bounties are pitifully small.

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Salvos Rhoska
#23 - 2017-04-29 17:02:38 UTC
ScanAlt
Doomheim
#24 - 2017-04-29 18:02:04 UTC
All this fuss over a 6 million ISK bounty?
Duke Wendo
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2017-04-29 19:22:07 UTC
Totally agree it shouild be linked to crime and reward should be whatever is decided to be paid.

It should also be integrated into the contract system to prevent people claiming their own bounty.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_hunter-

"A bounty hunter (sometimes called a bounty killer) is a person who captures fugitives and criminals for a
monetary reward (bounty). "


Say someone does something naughty in high or low sec (null and w-space have no NPC laws) and they go suspect- then you put up a bounty contract on them either to the public or to a corp or to an individual bounty hunter.

They take the contract and can now legally shoot the criminal ship. Upon it's destruction- they get paid for the contact. EOS.

Yes a guy could take a contact upon himself if it was public- but you wouldn't put it as a public contract... you would give the contract to a bounty hunting corp or individual you know who enjoys that play style.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#26 - 2017-04-29 20:51:41 UTC
Soloman Jackson wrote:
Dislike for a person?!? I see them as "Friendship Points". The more you collect the more folks like you. I mean, would they take the time to place a bounty if you didn't hold a special place in their heart? I think not!


That's a nice way of putting it, however I am sure my first bounty was placed on me in order to collect tears. Lol
Maybe I should check (if player is still in game) whether that was the case. Big smile
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2017-04-29 21:10:10 UTC
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
i mean...what is it good for?.


It can be used to place a red rectangle with white letters "WANTED" on someone's profile picture to discourage them to buy ingame clothing. Besides from ruining the aesthetics of hours in the create character it adds no more value to the game. should be reworked .

It is not a bounty.
It does not make people wanted.
It does not give anyone a wreckright or podright. Oh, killright..; lol, ccp should try and play the game more as most of them have no clue how things work or they need a lesson in English.
It gets abused but since no one cares it's not that problematic.


In conclusion it's worthless for anyone except trolls and RMT traders. The latter has steeply declined after the decrease in payout.



Elonaris Pokto
Doomheim
#28 - 2017-04-30 07:15:33 UTC
Aedaxus wrote:
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
i mean...what is it good for?.


It can be used to place a red rectangle with white letters "WANTED" on someone's profile picture to discourage them to buy ingame clothing. Besides from ruining the aesthetics of hours in the create character it adds no more value to the game. should be reworked .

It is not a bounty.
It does not make people wanted.
It does not give anyone a wreckright or podright. Oh, killright..; lol, ccp should try and play the game more as most of them have no clue how things work or they need a lesson in English.
It gets abused but since no one cares it's not that problematic.


In conclusion it's worthless for anyone except trolls and RMT traders. The latter has steeply declined after the decrease in payout.






Nope.....

Can be deleted without replacement....

Nobody will miss it...
Black Pedro
Mine.
#29 - 2017-04-30 07:46:22 UTC
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
Nope.....

Can be deleted without replacement....

Nobody will miss it...
Much like you Mr. Doomheim.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2017-04-30 08:05:06 UTC
Cybertherion wrote:
Have you just simply tried paying someone to kill your enemy?

That's a bounty.



In Eve, you pay to kill someone's enemy. Which leads to the conclusion that alts are our worse enemies.

Maybe, one day, ccp will revamp bounty/kill right mechanics to be used in corelation.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato

Salvos Rhoska
#31 - 2017-04-30 08:59:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
It works, for what it is.
It rewards someone for blowing them up.
The reward may be small, but its something.

Also gives you the satisfaction of receiving mail when they blow up so you can go check the kill mail and enjoy some schadenfreude, and perhaps send them a mocking mail about it if you are particularly salty.

If it wasnt for the fact that basically it makes "bounty hunters" redundant, except when as an interpersonal contract, Id say working as intended.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#32 - 2017-04-30 09:29:03 UTC
You guys bountied the OP into Doomheim Big smileBig smileBig smile

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#33 - 2017-04-30 14:45:39 UTC
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
Soloman Jackson wrote:
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
no...simply no...there is no need for this crap.....

as long as you can give it to everyone without reason....

this should be restricted and had to be overviewed and to be released by an isd/gm and only if there is a reason above "i don't like him" behind....


Reviewed by ISD/Gm?!? Do you realize how many are given out everyday? That would be a waste of their time and CCP's resources.

I'm sure there is a reason behind every bounty given. It may be a small reason, but a reason none the less.

For instance, I given them to folks so they feel wanted. They can tell they are wanted by the banner across their portrait! I do it because I care. :)

Perhaps it's your view of the system that is twisted. Why do you see them as a bad thing?


Well...that's a good reason for kicking it from the live servers.....

And no....a system that can be abused this way has no reason to exist.....

Crap stays crap even if the whole world tries to convince you its gold.....

Were you killed recently and told it was for your bounty, or did someone put a bounty on you and you're freaking out because you don't understand how the new system works?

Under the new system bounties are paid out based on the value of your ship and implants when they're destroyed, so killing people for bounties isn't really worth it unless they're flying something really expensive.

I've had a bounty of 10 million on my alt for at least 5 years now. Nobody comes after me looking to "cash in that sweet sweet bounty".

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)

Jason OPhee
Vulcan Jedi Masters Of Krypton
#34 - 2017-04-30 15:01:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason OPhee
The bounty system is crap as it is i will agree. Bounty hunting should be a reasonable profession. When you see bounties of 1b+ isk and somehow manage to kill them the entire bounty is given and split proportionate among those involved in the Kill mail and not just a portion of the bounty based on ship/implants but full bounty.
as a note i don't know the highest bounty and so made up a value but if some one wants to comment that bounties are never that high feel free to do so.
Salvos Rhoska
#35 - 2017-04-30 16:24:55 UTC
Jason OPhee wrote:
The bounty system is crap as it is i will agree. Bounty hunting should be a reasonable profession. When you see bounties of 1b+ isk and somehow manage to kill them the entire bounty is given and split proportionate among those involved in the Kill mail and not just a portion of the bounty based on ship/implants but full bounty.
as a note i don't know the highest bounty and so made up a value but if some one wants to comment that bounties are never that high feel free to do so.


Listen up, son.

That wont work.

If you placed 1bil bounty on me, I would blow myself up in a rookie ship with an alt, and send you a lolmail thanking you for the free billion.

See?
Kuromiko
No Expectatlons
#36 - 2017-04-30 17:10:24 UTC
OP sounds like one of those sjw's with post traumatic social media disorder.

Someone placed a bounty on me yesterday just to get a notification when I die (was going low-sec). So what? Do i go on forums or petition because I "feel" like this bounty was unfair or not deserved?
Kim Joo Won
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2017-04-30 18:38:48 UTC
Soloman Jackson wrote:
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
no...simply no...there is no need for this crap.....

as long as you can give it to everyone without reason....

this should be restricted and had to be overviewed and to be released by an isd/gm and only if there is a reason above "i don't like him" behind....


Reviewed by ISD/Gm?!? Do you realize how many are given out everyday? That would be a waste of their time and CCP's resources.

I'm sure there is a reason behind every bounty given. It may be a small reason, but a reason none the less.

For instance, I given them to folks so they feel wanted. They can tell they are wanted by the banner across their portrait! I do it because I care. :)

Perhaps it's your view of the system that is twisted. Why do you see them as a bad thing?
First of all, the OP is talking about scrapping the CURRENT system, so how many Bounties are given out on a daily basis is irrelevant.

Secondly, CCP has been doing nothing but wasting Resources. WOD. DUST514, and now the 99 Virtual Reality projects that are all expected to be a Net Loss. And lets not forget the CSM!

I'm under no illusions myself. The current system is designed to be a failure. They don't want a Bounty System that actually works. If the Bounty system did work people like MarkeeDragon, and our absolute favorite The Mittani would never be able to undock again.

Nevertheless, the OP's suggestion is a good one. It calls for a re-thinking of the approach to Online gaming. What's bad about the OP's suggestion is that its directed toward a company that clearly suffers from ADHD
Soloman Jackson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2017-04-30 18:59:47 UTC
Kim Joo Won wrote:
Soloman Jackson wrote:
Elonaris Pokto wrote:
no...simply no...there is no need for this crap.....

as long as you can give it to everyone without reason....

this should be restricted and had to be overviewed and to be released by an isd/gm and only if there is a reason above "i don't like him" behind....


Reviewed by ISD/Gm?!? Do you realize how many are given out everyday? That would be a waste of their time and CCP's resources.

I'm sure there is a reason behind every bounty given. It may be a small reason, but a reason none the less.

For instance, I given them to folks so they feel wanted. They can tell they are wanted by the banner across their portrait! I do it because I care. :)

Perhaps it's your view of the system that is twisted. Why do you see them as a bad thing?
First of all, the OP is talking about scrapping the CURRENT system, so how many Bounties are given out on a daily basis is irrelevant.

Secondly, CCP has been doing nothing but wasting Resources. WOD. DUST514, and now the 99 Virtual Reality projects that are all expected to be a Net Loss. And lets not forget the CSM!

I'm under no illusions myself. The current system is designed to be a failure. They don't want a Bounty System that actually works. If the Bounty system did work people like MarkeeDragon, and our absolute favorite The Mittani would never be able to undock again.

Nevertheless, the OP's suggestion is a good one. It calls for a re-thinking of the approach to Online gaming. What's bad about the OP's suggestion is that its directed toward a company that clearly suffers from ADHD


Awwww! You sound like you need some "Friendship points" too!

Firstly, the op is just crying over bullshit.

Secondly, it only bothers a small percent of the playerbase, Butt salty pilots, carebears and forum warriors.

I'm under no illusions, either. Hallucinations are were it's at!

Regardless, Eeeny meany miney moe. Catch a risk adverse pilot by his toe. If he hollers, let him go.

Eeeny. Meany. Miney. Moe.

o7

“The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.” -Rick Yancey

MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#39 - 2017-04-30 19:20:15 UTC
Seriously, this is a non-issue. The only reason to actually be upset about it is if you want to be a dedicated Bounty Hunter, in which case the current system sucks because you can only make ISK if you only kill them in expensive ships.

A bounty does NOT make you some kind of juicy target that now can't play the game because you'll get killed for your tasty bounty.

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2017-04-30 19:43:39 UTC
Currently the Bounty System is nothing more than a grief tool that's abused and exploited sorely to antagonize and annoy players.

Bounty should only be allowed on criminal characters, not on law abiding citizens. The fact that it's sanctioned by Concord just flat out breaks immersion.



DMC

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