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Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-23 06:30:57 UTC
so I am looking at the fullerides prices and it looks like producing them from jita bought materials could be profitable.

so..

1. can I anchor complex reactor in WH?
2. how much time does 1 reaction run last?
3. which wormhole type is the least desirable for POS? since I am not going to do anything else there anyway, and I can't use lowsec since it'll be demolished with dreads easily. Of couse high sec exit is very desirable...
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#2 - 2012-01-23 06:37:12 UTC
1. Yes
2. 1 hour cycles
3. Use a Class 1 WH or any WH that connects to HighSec
4. 475.2 mil/month for POS Fuel or 576 mil/month for Gallente POS Fuel

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-01-23 07:48:59 UTC
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
so I am looking at the fullerides prices and it looks like producing them from jita bought materials could be profitable.

so..

1. can I anchor complex reactor in WH?
2. how much time does 1 reaction run last?
3. which wormhole type is the least desirable for POS? since I am not going to do anything else there anyway, and I can't use lowsec since it'll be demolished with dreads easily. Of couse high sec exit is very desirable...


Reacting those gases to make T3 polymers is a w-space thing. The ones you buy prolly (?certainly) came from w-space to start with.

1. Yes, you will need a pos tower, some storage (usually cha), the five modules necessary for running the reactions, the reaction 'blueprints', and the necessary ingredients.
2. First time will prolly take a long time, coz they fiddle and not very user-friendly, but once it's all up and running the cycles are one hour each.
3. For what you doing, assuming you not w-space experienced, a class 1 w-system (with hisec static) may suit you best. If you not interested in other aspects of w-space you should have no difficulty finding a class 1 with poor PI. Such a system is not likely to be occupied and not very attractive for others to want to steal from you.
Alternatively you could look for class 2 or 3 w-system with hisec static. If you take up residence in w- system, and train right skills, you also be able to harvest your own gases from the Ladar sites, to supplement the stuff you buy in jita.

I have no idea re your potential profits, but gas harvesting and polymer reactions **are** pretty good income supplements in w-space ... If you're into that sort of thing.

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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-01-23 09:08:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu
(I assume you are talking about T2 moon reactions and not T3 stuff - some in this thread appear confused)

The volume of materials that you would have to ship in and out of the hole is problematic. You may be able to run one or two towers with normal haulers but to scale it up you would need hundreds of thousands of m3 of POS fuels and reaction materials. Do take this into consideration and make careful spreadsheets on input material costs, POS fuel costs and output profits; Fullerides reaction profitability is almost 100% tied to market price of Technetium which isn't the most stable thing on the market.

Initial starting costs are also fairly steep, but yeah, it can make ISK.

WH dwellers interested in POS reactions usually go for T3 rection material production as for those you can source the raw materials from the wormholes themselves (instead of buying it off Jita) and that way the profit margins are way higher - but naturally it means doing gas collecting which takes :effort: and stuff.

Also if you go for Fullerides reactions using normal haulers for moving things, consider the value of a hauler load of Technetium. at 100k ISK per unit, a typical silo load of 20000 units (20 000m3) is 2 billion ISK - it would be super-juicy suicide gank target... even a normal freighter carrying that much Technetium could be a profitable gank target, even if it is bit of a lottery ("will the technetium drop or not").
Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-01-23 10:13:32 UTC
1 hour per reaction, 2 arrays per pos and not 100% probability - probably not worth the time investment then, thanks for the info.
Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-01-23 13:40:23 UTC
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
so I am looking at the fullerides prices and it looks like producing them from jita bought materials could be profitable.

so..

1. can I anchor complex reactor in WH?
2. how much time does 1 reaction run last?
3. which wormhole type is the least desirable for POS? since I am not going to do anything else there anyway, and I can't use lowsec since it'll be demolished with dreads easily. Of couse high sec exit is very desirable...



And form the time you wrote this post till now price dropped... Bear

Congrat you first sucsessfull market manipulation Bear

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-01-23 17:19:44 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
(I assume you are talking about T2 moon reactions and not T3 stuff - some in this thread appear confused)


Ahhh, well spotted ... fullerides v. fullerenes. Subs-the-confused :-)

moogoo work doesn't need w-space tho? You can do that in lowsec POS. Never done any but clearly it's profitable ... jumped into lowsec system from w-space the other day. System had heaps of POSes and dude was warping between them in freighter. Chatted, and that was pretty well all he was doing - buying freighter loads of moon stuff in jita, refining it a step, and then selling.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.