Warfare & Tactics

I have a few questions regarding Faction Warfare so am going to go out of my comfort zone and ask.


I'm really interested in FW but am having a really hard time grasping it all. I'm going to read and study more but RL kinda has my time spoken for during this next week.

Thank you for your time and for being here.


If O or D plexing with a ship only fit with warp core stabalizers (as seen in a couple tutorials) what would they use to kill hostile npcs that spawn if they carry no weapons or drones, in order to keep the clock counting down? Obvious answer seems to be add
weapons but they just had the wcs equipped, no weapons.


To start in FW, a throw away character or a more permanent character? The throw away until a person can get settled and figure out what and how to do things in FW? Maybe for O and D plexing? The more permanent character for when we finally get the jist of what's going on and we get things sorted a bit?


Do people roam in groups or solo mostly? Lots of Cruiser fights? I'd think the better the player, the more they may tend to run solo.


How many skill points does a person need for the pvp part, not the O or D plexing part? Would 50 million skill points be enough to actually live through a few fights? Realizing that an experienced, good pilot can do more with less.

I guess I'm looking from the perspective of the average or the under average player. If as a bad player with some skills to 4 or 5 should be a bit better than the same player with skills to 3 because the ship and equipment may perform better. If you know
what I mean here. Do I save a higher well rounded skilled character from the standings loss and create a character specific for FW or do I use the higher skilled character and wreck its standings, figuring, if needed, how to get them standings back up later?

I'm kinda mid boggled here. and I'm going to click the post button and take my chances with you all.


Again, Thank you.

Warp Core Stabilizers don't actually prevent a ship from fitting weapons. They merely reduce targeting speed and range. And take up valuable low-slots on a ship that can be better spent on combat effectiveness (or tank, if the ship is an armor tanker).

Or... a player can set up a warp core stabbed drone ship to kill the NPC in a complex.
Simply set the drones to aggressive, go into a complex, deploy drones, and let them kill the NPC (note: to get drone damage high enough requires some skill investment).


Depends.

I started Faction Warfare with my main character some odd years ago. He fought and failed, died and killed.
Early on, as a newbie, you will die a lot. And that is to be expected.

If people judge your killboard from an early character age in anything more than a joking manner... they are probably people you don't want to hang with.

Good groups of people will judge you more on your willingness, tenacity, and demeanor.
A good sense of humor helps too.


You are correct in the last part; people who are solo tend to be more experienced. However there are exceptions (anti-social, dumb, etc).

And I have been out of FW for a bit, so I don't know what kinds of fights they have these days.


You can start PvPing on day one.

The catch is that you probably won't kill much with lacking skills.
And you won't survive much without experience.

This is why teaming up with others is important early on.
More friends means more people to compensate for your lacking abilities and experience.



Okay... so... this is bit tricky.

Just because someone has better skills, ships, or equipment than you do... it does not mean they are assured victory.

All ships have inherent strengths and weaknesses.


For example:
A Punisher is a beefy, hard hitting frigate. But it is a bit on the slow side and only has 2 medium power slots (meaning it can only fit a MWD / AB and a warp scrambler / disruptor.

This means that while a Punisher may be good stat-wise (and even be able to kill other ships in a straight close-range brawl), it will have problems against a faster, more nimble ship that can dance around it... or even outrange it.
Blaster-fit Atrons with an Afterburner come to mind.

Just an update.

By the way, this character is just a character I used to post this on the forum.

I started a new character for anonymity and did up to and finished the two newby military mission lines. Purchased three warp core stabalizers. Flew close to where a FW zone was, maybe 10% contested. Joined FW in the zone before the FW and took a chance I'd get into, at least FW, before I got blown up. Made it in two jumps to where I was headed. Nobody in local. Yes. Didn't see a Novice complex but there were three or four Smalls. I picked one and warped to it. Jumped through the gate. Started to head to the thirty km distance. About three minutes in I was going to say, "Wooo Hooo I'm faction warfaring." when a ship jumped in, not a different color. White icon I think. Was slowly thinking it's probably a pirate and I should , maybe, warp out. Yea, a little slow on the thought process.

Anyhow, I got locked. I tried to jump to a safe I had made. Couldn't jump so I died. Thought may as well get my pod blown up to and get me back to base. Crap. Oh yea. Base is way back x amount of jumps. Damn, should have set my clone I guess but everything happened so fast and I wanted to get into FW.

So, yea. Just to let you all know I did go into FW. Obiviously I must do things different than the way I did it but is all a blurr. Now I'm x jumps away wondering do I drop the FW and get a ship back out there before joining FW again because I can't see making it out there again before getting blown up.

Guess my fifteen red timer thing is finished. And, also, I tried the warp core stabalizer bit just to get into FW. I'm not planning to FW this way, just really wanted to do FW before I was too afeared and chickened out.

Man I so wish I was younger.

Have a good day. /wave

Agreed, being in a FW corp is the way I'm heading. I don't want to play alone anymore.


Running like a rabbit with stabs just ain't for me at all. Flying alone, doing the pvp just makes just makes me a pinata and feels kinda stupid.


I was able to survive and run from three separate people. Finally finished a complex and the thing said something about Nice job but no cookies for you because I was in an uncontested area. About killed myself laughing. Coulda swore it was contested before I was running for my life. Sorry I couldn't help the faction out. Kinda thought my heart would have got started a bit more but I was very calm.



Cheers

Faction warfare is mostly a group activity. A player on his own with many skill points will rarely fight on his own against a sole enemy. If you see someone on their own, most of the time they are bait for a gang elsewhere in system or waiting to jump in.

What this means is that there is no minimum skill point limit. You are ALWAYS useful as part of a group. E-War, tackle, damage, all these roles can be done usefully by a Day 1 player.

Or you could just join a null sec newbie alliance, get gud, and fly a ship bigger than a frigate most days

Ahh. Says someone who mistakes the occasional incursion into Provi as 'null sec'.

Nope, no humour. As in everywhere in EvE the value you get out of this game depends upon the people you fly with. My experience in null is that I fly almost exclusively in small gangs with a wider variety of ships than I could ever dream of in low sec. We deploy in a hostile system, we victimise everyone in sight and then redeploy somewhere else.

Even when I return to FW periodically on alts I don't see the value in such a restricted play style anymore (very few targets, fights are mainly in frigates and dessies or you are reduced to chasing stabbed farmers). And let's just set aside for a moment the myth that low sec pilots are too elite to not blob or gate camp.

I just think that, as a newbie, you will get much more value and breadth of experience in null than anywhere else at the moment and the null sec newbie, for all their faults , are the best avenue for that. And there is much more reason and purpose to fight in null than in FW. Citadels have just made a mockery of that.

Well it seems like your null sec and my null sec are very different.

I'm sorry you got blobbed and couldn't adapt your tactics to avoid that.