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Alpha clones: a Caldari issue

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Il'Rik Rik'Kha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2017-04-26 12:55:33 UTC
The cosmic anomalies of rank "(Faction) Refuge / Drone Assembly" or above contains some EWAR frigates.
They are no match for 3 (or more) drones, the issue is that the "lesser" Caldari ships - that is T1 frigates and destroyers - have very few drones (frigates), or none at all (destroyers).
This isn't a problem for an Omega clone: (s)he can use the "Auto-Targeting Missiles", but this skill isn't available for an Alpha clone.
That said: I'll avoid the above-mentioned anomalies, and I'll grind enough to buy a drone-equipped cruiser, but the issue still remains.

Bye!
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvatt
#2 - 2017-04-26 13:23:42 UTC
Some of the other races have the same problem with some of their ships? The ships are balanced around each other and their roles, not so much as what they can do compared to another ship.

And Gallente Master Race, why pick anything else?
Il'Rik Rik'Kha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2017-04-26 14:52:12 UTC
I don't see balance it the issue that I've posted - that is a fact: the Alpha clones can't use the auto-targeting missiles, not even one rank - but I have high regard in your wisdom, so I'll change character as soon as possible.

Thanks for your enlightenment.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#4 - 2017-04-26 17:20:02 UTC
I assume you are talking about gurista refuge and ecm frigs?

try fitting a sensor booster with an ECCM script which should decrease the chance they jam you. Also when fighting guristas is it useful to learn which ships are most likely to jam and shoot them first.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Aiwha
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2017-04-26 17:50:04 UTC
Autotargeting missiles are awful. Do not use them. They're only in the game because CCP keeps forgetting to just remove them.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Sitting Bull Lakota
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#6 - 2017-04-26 17:53:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Sitting Bull Lakota
Train up three other accounts with the other races. The cost to you is minimal, and the benefit is access to the whole Alpha lineup.
Here're some other options for you: use smartbombs, eccm, bring a friend, or use a ship with drones.

I'm not a missile man, but I'm pretty sure no one uses auto targetters. Though I suppose that is technically an option for Omega accounts.
You're not missing out on much in that area.
Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2017-04-26 18:05:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nasar Vyron
Part of playing this game is picking your battles and the ship/fit you bring into those fights.

If you know you can't handle ECM don't head into fights that contain ECM. If the fight is unavoidable pick the proper ship to match up against it (in your case you can't) so your next choice is bring the proper fit. As a guy above me said, use a sebo with an ECCM script to make you more resilient to being jammed. The last option simply being to move to a different region where ECM is not even brought to bear against you. So literally anywhere else but Guristas space.


You complain about imbalance, yet it is balanced. You're simply too new to realize the options available to you. The longer you play and ask around the more you'll begin to understand. Don't get stressed out just because your current abilities limit what you can do. You'd be hard pressed to find a game that lets you do anything you want from level 1 on a free account.


For now, if you don't feel like moving a few jumps over to a different region I suggest using the sebo with the ECCM script. You'll still get jammed occasionally, but it should but you more time to pick off the rats jamming you quickly in those low level sites.
Il'Rik Rik'Kha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2017-04-26 18:27:33 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
I assume you are talking about gurista refuge and ecm frigs?

try fitting a sensor booster with an ECCM script which should decrease the chance they jam you. Also when fighting guristas is it useful to learn which ships are most likely to jam and shoot them first.


Truly interesting!!!
I'll try to use the booster + ECCM a.s.a.p.

Many thanks!!!

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#9 - 2017-04-26 20:33:47 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Autotargeting missiles are awful. Do not use them. They're only in the game because CCP keeps forgetting to just remove them.

they are great for semi afking content. press button, do 500-600 dps till they run out, and repeat till everything is dead. CNR is nice as it can apply very well, barghest is nice as the missile velocity bonus means no wasted ammo out to over 100km.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter