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Captain's Quarters Updates

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Redus Taw
Farmers Union Iced Coffee
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2017-04-24 09:40:03 UTC
Hey all o/, so I know this probably isn't very high on anyone's priority list, but Id' love to be able to get into the Captain's Quarters and interact with other pilots. I really want a bar so I can sip whiskey with corp-mates. Also if anyone has any additional suggestions for things they'd like to see in Captain's Quarters, feel free to leave that in the comments below. Thanks!
Cybertherion
Doomheim
#2 - 2017-04-24 09:51:37 UTC
I've pondered over the CQ thing a bit. I've been bratting around the forums a lot today, and recently posted that I've wondered why CCP didn't follow through on this.

Maybe a security status based "bar system" might stop a few hundred players crashing the game by descending on an in-game Permaband show. I don't know, but I like the cut of your jib making the thread.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Carnivorous Swarm
Doomheim
#3 - 2017-04-24 13:09:16 UTC
I'd like to be able to infiltrate other captains' quarters and knife them.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#4 - 2017-04-25 08:09:09 UTC
I want to have gambling. Pachinko. Exotic dancers. Space Vegas.
Maybe you would lose some ISK, but you would have fun doing that.

And no violence. You can do that in space already. Just undock and resolve your issues outside the bar.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#5 - 2017-04-25 08:51:02 UTC
You're essentially asking CCP to develop a new game inside of Eve that really has nothing to do with the core gameplay. I think they learned that was a bad idea with Walking in Stations - CQ is all that remains of that initiative and it isn't being ported to the new structures.

There is a rumor that the in game chat client will be replaced with a 3rd party product like Discord. One of the 3D chat clients may work with Eve and give avatar based social interaction without a lot of development effort.

This is the place to discuss how it might work.
Cybertherion
Doomheim
#6 - 2017-04-25 09:19:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Cybertherion
Do Little wrote:
There is a rumor that the in game chat client will be replaced with a 3rd party product like Discord.

This is the place to discuss how it might work.


Ermagerd. Third party stuff is great, but if a game doesn't include it within itself it's somewhat freakishly obsolete. Then again, Rumours is just a great Fleetwood Mac album in reality and nothing more.

Naturally EvE caters to well off people, it's somewhat hard to run (for example) with limited data access. There's even some people with mental health issues about what gaming is who claim you need multiple accounts to play EvE.

While super famous megacorps, PvP gangs and general loudmouths all use third party coms (to great effect) to enhance these aspects of EvE, not having access to third party programs shouldn't detract from enjoyment of the game.

This thread isn't about that however.

With such a great avatar design program, I personally think CCP underestimate how vain humans as a species are. (WARNING: The following statement involves ideas that to PC folk may find sexist). While I occasionally look in the mirror to shave or to check out how badly my face has been bruised post beatdown I've observed many of my female friends enjoy their own reflection, and I will not object to them doing so. If the CQ concept had of been developed even a little further, a slightly more active use of character avatars might influence more people (not just womenfolk) to play. Gamers and nerds are famous for being socially awkward, but a greater (literal) in game gender balance WOULD encourage new players and move these perceptions away from "awkward nerd gamer stereotypes" and into the inclusiveness that I personally believe CCP have strived for in EvE.

RE: "a new game inside EvE", IMO if CCP had of bothered to make Dust 5(hundred and whatever) INSIDE EvE their flagship game would have a lot more players, and they would never have to have even entered the moneysink of immature pre-3D console marketeering.

HOWEVER: despite the "nerd as punk mentality and fighting the power" ie; slagging CCP, I'm sure all these ideas had been discussed by the devs, and they have their own reasons for zero avatar engagements and crappy gunporn console bollocks.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#7 - 2017-04-25 09:58:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Do Little wrote:
There is a rumor that the in game chat client will be replaced with a 3rd party product like Discord. One of the 3D chat clients may work with Eve and give avatar based social interaction without a lot of development effort.

This is the place to discuss how it might work.

Absolutely awfull idea, along the new Discourse forums. Closing of Evelopedia.

Finishing move would be to replace spaceships in EVE with third party game.

Something essential to EVE experience left in the hands of people clueless what EVE is, like with EVE Store. Absolutely awfull.

As for expanding Station experience, people were asking for this since game launched. It had to be made by CCP. They failed delivering everything more than one room: minmatar CQ, and microtransaction wise they have tied expansion with outrageously high prices for items in the NEX store. That was why the people were raging, that CCP could not deliver stuff they promised and wanted to milk them, that is all.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#8 - 2017-04-25 13:18:50 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Do Little wrote:
There is a rumor that the in game chat client will be replaced with a 3rd party product like Discord. One of the 3D chat clients may work with Eve and give avatar based social interaction without a lot of development effort.

This is the place to discuss how it might work.

Absolutely awfull idea, along the new Discourse forums. Closing of Evelopedia.

Finishing move would be to replace spaceships in EVE with third party game.

Something essential to EVE experience left in the hands of people clueless what EVE is, like with EVE Store. Absolutely awfull.

As for expanding Station experience, people were asking for this since game launched. It had to be made by CCP. They failed delivering everything more than one room: minmatar CQ, and microtransaction wise they have tied expansion with outrageously high prices for items in the NEX store. That was why the people were raging, that CCP could not deliver stuff they promised and wanted to milk them, that is all.



Not entirely true. Me and all the folks I Eve hang out with where angry that CCP was spending any time at all on space barbies. Don't speak for everyone if you're flat out wrong. I was raging at space barbies, not at broken space Barbie promises. Totally different.

Eve (to me) is an epic space conflict game that does employ a large single sandbox (unlike other shardy mmo) and doesn't spend time walking space barbies around and letting them dance and (inevitably) hump/tea bag each other in some form. There are a zillion (estimate and not an exact figure) humpy / tea bag games out there - if that's your thing - super - it's easily available. If you want to enjoy an epic space conflict sandbox game - play Eve.

There are some folks that ask for it, but I seriously doubt it's a majority. Even if it is - I don't think it would be prudent for CCP to divert resources that have been maintaining a decent cash stream for a decade to space barbies where they suddenly have to compete with the rest of the known universe for the best looking Barbie graphics to keep the Barbie players happy. There is a proven history of not excelling when CCP gets of the New Eden path.
TheGuy Akachi
Maniacal Miners INC
The Legends In The Game
#9 - 2017-04-25 18:29:32 UTC
They might do something with player characters, but not in this way. I think they might add a way to link your EVE account to the Project Nova FPS (whenever that comes out). And I'm sure then they will be some player hubs to meat with other players, while not wearing a combat suit. But for space bars? I doubt it.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#10 - 2017-04-25 18:34:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Do Little wrote:
There is a rumor that the in game chat client will be replaced with a 3rd party product like Discord. One of the 3D chat clients may work with Eve and give avatar based social interaction without a lot of development effort.

This is the place to discuss how it might work.

Absolutely awfull idea, along the new Discourse forums. Closing of Evelopedia.

Finishing move would be to replace spaceships in EVE with third party game.

Something essential to EVE experience left in the hands of people clueless what EVE is, like with EVE Store. Absolutely awfull.

As for expanding Station experience, people were asking for this since game launched. It had to be made by CCP. They failed delivering everything more than one room: minmatar CQ, and microtransaction wise they have tied expansion with outrageously high prices for items in the NEX store. That was why the people were raging, that CCP could not deliver stuff they promised and wanted to milk them, that is all.



Not entirely true. Me and all the folks I Eve hang out with where angry that CCP was spending any time at all on space barbies. Don't speak for everyone if you're flat out wrong. I was raging at space barbies, not at broken space Barbie promises. Totally different.

Eve (to me) is an epic space conflict game that does employ a large single sandbox (unlike other shardy mmo) and doesn't spend time walking space barbies around and letting them dance and (inevitably) hump/tea bag each other in some form. There are a zillion (estimate and not an exact figure) humpy / tea bag games out there - if that's your thing - super - it's easily available. If you want to enjoy an epic space conflict sandbox game - play Eve.

There are some folks that ask for it, but I seriously doubt it's a majority. Even if it is - I don't think it would be prudent for CCP to divert resources that have been maintaining a decent cash stream for a decade to space barbies where they suddenly have to compete with the rest of the known universe for the best looking Barbie graphics to keep the Barbie players happy. There is a proven history of not excelling when CCP gets of the New Eden path.

Strange, I spend my time with people that want WiS and I think I am in majority.

As for getting off the New Eden path, brace yourself because they are going out of this path more and more, to not be dependent on people like you or me. They do not care now about doing great stuff in New Eden, but about making money and they search oportunities to make it. Where have you been when they announced that VR game?

Also their first game had nothing to do with New Eden, it was a table game and was a succes.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#11 - 2017-04-25 19:01:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Linus Gorp
Nana Skalski wrote:
As for getting off the New Eden path, brace yourself because they are going out of this path more and more, to not be dependent on people like you or me. They do not care now about doing great stuff in New Eden, but about making money and they search oportunities to make it. Where have you been when they announced that VR game?

https://youtu.be/TOOnD7ZDGIo?t=1m30s

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#12 - 2017-04-25 19:25:25 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
As for getting off the New Eden path, brace yourself because they are going out of this path more and more, to not be dependent on people like you or me. They do not care now about doing great stuff in New Eden, but about making money and they search oportunities to make it. Where have you been when they announced that VR game?

https://youtu.be/TOOnD7ZDGIo?t=1m30s



💰💰 B A G S O F C A S H 💰💰💰


And this.
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#13 - 2017-04-26 16:56:57 UTC
There is always the small group that complains if CCP does anything but animate new ships exploding. It's a PVP game, but this group would apparently have been happier if CCP had forgotten to actually make a game and just made this HALO or Destiny with spaceships.

The Walking in Stations fell victim to over ambition, greed and hubris. If they had not tried to bundle it with the silly Aurum Store then it would not have gotten the backlash that it did.

Make no mistake, there are a large number of players that would like to see the game expanded to station interiors and even planetside stuff. It's just that when they do it, they never just do that thing, they try to make it into another massive cash cow.

There were plans for more of the station stuff, but the EVE team is painfully slow about rolling out anything. The WIS stuff was, as I understand it, being developed by a multigame team that was also working on a World of Darkness MMO, which also got canned and then sold off.

I hope they do eventually do get back to developing the stations, planets, and even ship interiors. I also hope they get back to developing the various factions and more PvE oriented playstyles so that faction standings and such become useful. It's sad what the hyper focus on PvP has done to a game with such huge promise.
GoodGreyer Ayderan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2017-04-26 18:15:09 UTC
At a minimum we ought to be able to invite other players to our CQ. How hard can that be? (Removing one's clothes optional Shocked )

More involved for CCP would be Corporate Offices, where corp members can meet and hang out.

And Above that would be some public social gathering area (e.g. lounge, club, pub) where any player could go while on station.

Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#15 - 2017-04-26 18:37:24 UTC
If not open D door open a window please i would like to have a station view not just hangar view on other side of a CQ trading floor view would be nice.

Also stations are dull 360 degree closed sphere massive redesign needs to happen what is much more awesomezing is that stations are open type ie shielding on one side docking bays on other..a lot of them spawning around station horizontal axis so you can see other docking platforms to certain extent and naturally docking ships and frikin space too.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Lokitroy11 Blackmages
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#16 - 2017-04-27 04:19:14 UTC
Remember some ideas they shared during one of the fastest about Dust514 with the active and live background...like the ships flying in the back of our ships when docked. They could update that as a start. right now they are updating textures like the sun and some ships.. I feel like they will get to the CQ eventually. They r just slow...or have lost of work to do.
Nosum Hseebnrido
Interregnum.
#17 - 2017-04-27 07:15:10 UTC
Redus Taw wrote:
Hey all o/, so I know this probably isn't very high on anyone's priority list, but Id' love to be able to get into the Captain's Quarters and interact with other pilots. I really want a bar so I can sip whiskey with corp-mates. Also if anyone has any additional suggestions for things they'd like to see in Captain's Quarters, feel free to leave that in the comments below. Thanks!

Why not make house party and stash all your friends on your sofa instead? It would req. minimal developmet time to do itIdea.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Nosum_Hseebnrido

Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#18 - 2017-04-27 09:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Shallanna Yassavi
Even something as simple as opening CQ to visitors would require more work than that.

While in CQ, you can:
Walk around.
Look at whatever thing you're close to when walking around (ship, mirror, TV, down the hall).
Sit on the couch and watch TV.
Walk over to one of those holodisplays and click on a button to access stuff on the neocom.

Letting you invite guests would mostly add group portraits to the list, unless they added emotes to the list. And a new tab to the NES because how dare you expect your monthly sub fee to unlock the whole game?

-Edit-

In NPCorp chat yesterday, we had some talks about some old (conventional) MMOs, and how people got rich in these games by putting their female toons in a bar and dancing, and people literally throwing money at them for that. Hmm.
If CCP ever made it so our toons could dance in bars, this toon would be able to make at least some money dancing in a bar in one of the trade hubs just because of the mostly male composition of the playerbase. It would be interesting to see how much. Except, if I can do that with one toon at a time on one account, someone else with more toons can do that with... those hordes of skill injector farm alts. Oh.
The feature could be made a more interactive and less scriptable by making a lot of simpler semi-independent animations you can bind to keys so you could make your own dance steps, and a tool to string together a more complex sequence. It would be one of those EVE-style "Let's just see what kind of things these crazy people come up with," except it would be on a station instead of in space.

... and shiny, expensive coding nightmare. Oh, well.

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Tessa Sage
Long Pig Luncheon Meat
Sending Thots And Players
#19 - 2017-04-28 10:33:55 UTC
Carnivorous Swarm wrote:
I'd like to be able to infiltrate other captains' quarters and knife them.


They would just spring back in the clone bay of that station, and have a limited engagement to chase you down in kind..
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2017-04-29 05:20:04 UTC
Removed an off topic post.

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