EVE General Discussion

Interestingly enough, it does not specify that this is the amount paid out only by Hisec Incursions, just Incursions in general.

It's simple enough to fix them...once the Sansha Mom shows up, no more spawns. Period. Prevents people from farming a infinite amount of ships, and really is how it should have been in the first place.

Incursion runners get to play the anti-Incursion game, while not making stacks of money disproportionate to the risk they are dealing with.

Really? I will give it a try.

Although missions are not really relevant I will point out your mistake here.

Incursions have at least 86% of earned ISK injected into the game.

Missions are more like 30% of 60 million at the high end. This will be less if you spend time salvaging compared to blitzing. I did a few hours of blitzing missions to test this earning 54k LP and 102 million in four hours. That was 210 million for me in 4 hours, so 55 million ISK an hour. This means I have 12 million ISK per hour injected into eve (102 million minus 54 million on LP sink then divide this 48 million by 4). Note well that I never calculated the time spent in getting the insignias or selling the items that I purchased from the LP shop and this would reduce the ISK generated per hour.

Taking me as an example this means I injected 12 million ISK into the economy doing missions compared to 86 million ( based on an average day of 100 million an hour minus 14% for LP ISK sink) running incursions. Extrapolating, your high end mission runner injects about one seventh the ISK of an average incursion runner into the EVE economy or one eleventh that of a high end incursion runner who earns 150 million an hour.

These fractions are worse than I thought and the raw incursion ISK must be seriously nerfed.

I hope that CCP disregards these anecdotal numbers on the average ISK/hours from incursions and instead collect hard statistics on the matter.

I wonder if they did nerf incursions, being a runner myself, would they see a decline in plex sales? Didn't CCP see a huge spike in PLEX sales along with plex prices when they came out? I would say its natural balancing from the market and players.

Don't get me wrong here I'm not on day and night running it I make a few hundred mill and blow it up in pvp later, but if your willing to sit there mindlessly running 23/7 you deserve that money. Because their goons and because this game is all about "Trust" do you really trust a 14 year old raving lunatic trapped in a 30 year old body just because he's older than you?

If you do run incursions you can easily calculate the figures and imagine if there's 1000 people like me but not as good as me making money you might as well ***** about us market players having the ability to put up orders for 3 months, how research can be left to research alone, how PI is auto harvested all you gotta do is collect it. Incursion running requires attention and skills and its our reward for our skills, attention, and organization.

But I would assume in a game predominantly about which child can scream the loudest is what CCP strives for right?
Because little timmy's dad was able to buy him the super soaker 9001 and your stuck with your super soaker 270 you just have to kick and scream and get whatever friend you have to agree with you to convince the adult to take it away or break the SS9001 so that it "fixes" your problem not theirs.

Its **** like that why aurum was introduced and why they believed were like cattle, as long as were not on CCP's ass for stuff like that but on each others their gravy about everything the minority says.

Sad, everyone is whining about Incursions just because many people instead of few make lots of isk.

1) Inflation naturally fixes everything.

2) People who earn an insane amount of isk are the ones mostly complaining because they are no longer the few and cannot have people stroke their ego. Also, low-sec dwellers are complaining but given the fact they chose low-sec knowing there is little to no isk there, why are they complaining?

3) There are other things you can do in EVE which net you equal to more than Incursions so please, don't start saying there is too much isk, you are just being greedy and want to monopolize.

I'm amused by the fact that all of this hubub is because someone decided to shoot a valid PvE target.

yup

Idiot post. Some of the richest people in the game are making their money through incursions, there isnt a single other occupation that brings in that much isk regularly and in almost total safety.

Yes, let's cure the ingrown nail by sawing off the entire foot. Great idea.

(get out)

There's absolutely no difference between "ruining your game" and "ruining the game". None at all.

Sigh.