EVE General Discussion

learning curve: https://i.imgur.com/jj16ThL.jpg

couple of videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A

you'll never know 100% of this game. Not even the Devs know this game 100%
just found your niche and be an expert of that particular sector.

join a player corp with vets that can teach you the "eve ways" ASAP, as soon as you finish the emh.. how do you call it?... emh.. initial tutorial!

have fun
o7

You'll probably quickly hear stuff like "EvE is life" while playing. It's a sandbox. You can build castles (be an industrialist etc), smash others castles (be a PvP warlord etc) or hang out in the bushes naked with a calculator (er... I guess that's the spreadsheet bit?).

Do whatever you want. It's as complex as you want to make it, just like life.

Self starters thrive under this environment. Theres a lot of information online but people are generally lazy to learn outside of paid or school environments where theres a specific goal or understanding of reward. You will never stop learning new things in Eve. EVER! If you dont you are either doing the same thing every day or you arent logging in anymore.

Dig, learn, grow. Its hard enough in real life let alone in a virtual world. Keep pushing and never give up, ever. Like life failure is only an illusion in your head. Everything you learn from, everything you grow from.

So in these respects Eve is like life.



But also like life its stupidly simple. Either you are making isk or you are killing things, sometimes both. So grab some friends, some beers and find something fun to "waste" some time on until you choose to log off and reenter the real world.

I think the graph is more informative when it displays enjoyment factor instead of 'gaming skills'.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QCSpH46t06A/UzErmWTSdAI/AAAAAAAAAeE/4THbAQWV7JA/s1600/EveLifeBreakdown.png

I demand my mis-typed words to be properly quoted, so I can't just edit them a few minutes later!

EVE is the most immersive and rewarding online game ever, period. It is also one of the most frustrating, and at times, boring online game ever. You don't "play" EVE, you live it, and just like real life, it has its ups and downs.

You will get out of it what you put into it.

In short: yes, it is complex in psychological and intellectual way and you should be prepared to work hard, but once you get your thing going, Eve is a great experience and I haven't found its like anywhere.

One of the big differences in Eve compared to most everything I've played, is that there's no set objective or storyline, and during my years in Eve, it has been probably the most difficult aspect. You have to figure out your own goals, your own measure of success, and then head out with those to see how it goes for you. Whether it's that you want to have a blueprint for everything you can, being the top of the killboard of your choice or being the most hated scammer, it's up to you to do what it takes to get you there. That practically everything is run by players made this complex, to say the least, but that's the big thing in Eve for me: There are real people behind every door and you affect them and they affect you and you get to fly space ships while doing it. :P

I admit I've occasionally found myself lost, and had to take a break for a month or few to reorient and re-evaluate my Eve-life, but determination has seen it through and the possibilities always drag me back in with new plans and ideas.

Main thing is, try out a few interesting things, pick one, FOCUS on that until it's done and after that swap. If you swap ever few weeks, you end up having it rough as many things take a specific skill set on the char sheet and in your head to succeed. And skills take time. Spread your training around and you can do nothing well and things suck bad. So yeah, planning is a key in developing your skills.

And one thing I recommend learning is how to cope with risk. You consent to PvP every time you undock, and the losses are exactly that. The faster you learn how to do cope with getting popped and podded, the faster you get one factor of misery out of your way. It happens, it's a fact of life. Take it as a learning experience and go on to replace the loss.

But those are just scratching the surface of all there is. Finding people who know how stuff works is great, but it still won't be easy and simple.

Get into an active corporation as soon as possible. Important to note that membership numbers =/= activity. I've seen (and been part of) 100+ man corps with 2-5 people only at a time. (Also, not a TZ issue with this particular case).

Make sure the corporation you join does the following:

• Active in the the timezone YOU play.
• Does things you like, or would be interested in trying.
• If you're at all interested in the roleplaying side, EVE has a large community for that too.

The biggest asset EVE has over WOW and other MMOs is that there is a big sense of community. Things are harder to achieve in EVE that other games, and that's part of the fun. I still talk to guys I flew with back in 2011 who are now red to me and who I engage from time to time, no hard feelings.

The English Help Channel is a great place to ask questions as that channel is moderated, and you will usually get an answer quickly. Also, if you join a corp, your corpmates will be the best asset you can have.

EVE is a social game. The social aspect is what people focus on, as there is no "end-game" or "max level". Take things slow, learn, and above all, don't get discouraged. Welcome to EVE.

It's as complex as real life to some extend ... the mechanics are taught quickly, but the complexity comes from what people make out of it and the interactions between people in this game. Also because this is a PvP centric game it's very well balanced, i.e. if you lose your ship or a fight the reason why is 99% you made a mistake or you lack crucial knowledge. This is important, because every risk, loss brings you further in understanding if you ask the right questions. You can wander almost totally safe (except bad luck, carelessness) in this game, if you have the right knowledge and equipment. But of course safe is not always fun, but in a fight it translates into ... having control over the situation. Hence if you find yourself in a 1:1 fight with Tipa (rare case nowadays, fleets are more fun) you know I have a plan.

ease into it, it's a marathon not a sprint. EVE is not a hard game to learn but it is a bastard to master.