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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2017-04-23 10:15:05 UTC
Fifty Three wrote:
Hi. I have a few questions.

1. How long does Concord take to come rescue someone under attack in High Sector?

2. Does response time depend on how big the High sector system is and/or far away the hostile action is taking place from Concord ships?

3. Can a tanked Covetor,Hulk, the weakest of the barges/Exumers survive long enough until Concord arrives usually, without even having offensive capability, like scout drones?


1) Concorde is not here to rescue but to punish.
2) Response time depends on the security status of the system. 1.0 fast - 0.5 slow
3) depends on how many gangers you face, the system you are in, what ships the gankers use, your implants or on grid boosts....many variables

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2017-04-23 10:17:10 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Fifty Three wrote:
Hi. I have a few questions.

1. How long does Concord take to come rescue someone under attack in High Sector?

2. Does response time depend on how big the High sector system is and/or far away the hostile action is taking place from Concord ships?

3. Can a tanked Covetor,Hulk, the weakest of the barges/Exumers survive long enough until Concord arrives usually, without even having offensive capability, like scout drones?

Awe somebody got ganked


Should not happen to a paying customer who don't accepted pvp at least not in high....concord should respond THE SAME SECOND with an 100k alpha on the attacker or an autodestruct of the attacker would help too or CCP should make unsanctioned attacks impossible(in high).....

So many possibilities to protext normal people from this PVP nonsense...


you sir are an idiot

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Keno Skir
#23 - 2017-04-23 10:28:33 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Fifty Three wrote:
Hi. I have a few questions.

1. How long does Concord take to come rescue someone under attack in High Sector?

2. Does response time depend on how big the High sector system is and/or far away the hostile action is taking place from Concord ships?

3. Can a tanked Covetor,Hulk, the weakest of the barges/Exumers survive long enough until Concord arrives usually, without even having offensive capability, like scout drones?

Awe somebody got ganked


Should not happen to a paying customer who don't accepted pvp at least not in high....concord should respond THE SAME SECOND with an 100k alpha on the attacker or an autodestruct of the attacker would help too or CCP should make unsanctioned attacks impossible(in high).....

So many possibilities to protext normal people from this PVP nonsense...


Jog on, everybody agrees to PvP by undocking.

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Teros Hakomairos
Doomheim
#24 - 2017-04-23 19:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Teros Hakomairos
ERM.....

How could someone come to the conclusion that you have to remove PVE content from a PVE only zone?

I don't get this sry....sounds...silly :-)
Teros Hakomairos
Doomheim
#25 - 2017-04-23 19:57:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Teros Hakomairos
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Fifty Three wrote:
Hi. I have a few questions.

1. How long does Concord take to come rescue someone under attack in High Sector?

2. Does response time depend on how big the High sector system is and/or far away the hostile action is taking place from Concord ships?

3. Can a tanked Covetor,Hulk, the weakest of the barges/Exumers survive long enough until Concord arrives usually, without even having offensive capability, like scout drones?

Awe somebody got ganked


Should not happen to a paying customer who don't accepted pvp at least not in high....concord should respond THE SAME SECOND with an 100k alpha on the attacker or an autodestruct of the attacker would help too or CCP should make unsanctioned attacks impossible(in high).....

So many possibilities to protext normal people from this PVP nonsense...


you sir are an idiot


No...simply no......

I'm just........totally right.....
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#26 - 2017-04-23 20:24:03 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
ERM.....

How could someone come to the conclusion that you have to remove PVE content from a PVE only zone?

I don't get this sry....sounds...silly :-)

Not at all. He / she's only talking about the rewards, not the content.

Making HS a safe zone would mean, you'd have to deprive it fom any sort of reward that could be used in PvP, which basically means everything.

Remove standings and insurance.
Teros Hakomairos
Doomheim
#27 - 2017-04-24 11:04:24 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
ERM.....

How could someone come to the conclusion that you have to remove PVE content from a PVE only zone?

I don't get this sry....sounds...silly :-)

Not at all. He / she's only talking about the rewards, not the content.

Making HS a safe zone would mean, you'd have to deprive it fom any sort of reward that could be used in PvP, which basically means everything.


nonsense......

all you have to do is ban pvp from high and let things go its way.....
Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2017-04-24 12:41:29 UTC
(Yawn) What, this again?

CCP says somewhere that ~80% of players live, work, and play in Highsec.

They do so under the current rules governing non-consensual player conflict.

If non-consensual PvP were to be removed, what would change?

You're right; there'd be an immediate QoL uptick for those of the 80% who are averse to conflict.

So... CCP is expected to unbalance the whole game in exchange for a few smug smiles from the carebears?

I don't think so.

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Brigadine Ferathine
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Against ALL Authorities.
#29 - 2017-04-24 13:00:22 UTC
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
(Yawn) What, this again?

CCP says somewhere that ~80% of players live, work, and play in Highsec.

They do so under the current rules governing non-consensual player conflict.

If non-consensual PvP were to be removed, what would change?

You're right; there'd be an immediate QoL uptick for those of the 80% who are averse to conflict.

So... CCP is expected to unbalance the whole game in exchange for a few smug smiles from the carebears?

I don't think so.

I mean is that 20% more important than the 80%? Sounds like minority tyranny to me.
Krin Dessat
Far Runner
#30 - 2017-04-24 13:25:11 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
ERM.....

How could someone come to the conclusion that you have to remove PVE content from a PVE only zone?

I don't get this sry....sounds...silly :-)

Not at all. He / she's only talking about the rewards, not the content.

Making HS a safe zone would mean, you'd have to deprive it fom any sort of reward that could be used in PvP, which basically means everything.


nonsense......

all you have to do is ban pvp from high and let things go its way.....


Which would quickly lead to a complete collapse of Eve's economy.
That, and many people (including me) would cease playing, because a totally risk-free game is simply not what I pay a monthly fee for.
And before you ask, I am a trader, hauler and industrialist. I however fully accept the risks and try to plan and prepare for the eventuality that I may be a target.
A proper balance between risk and reward must be maintained.
Cade Windstalker
#31 - 2017-04-24 15:41:29 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
ERM.....

How could someone come to the conclusion that you have to remove PVE content from a PVE only zone?

I don't get this sry....sounds...silly :-)


High-Sec is not a PvE only zone, in fact more is destroyed in PvP in High Sec on average than in Null between ganks, wars, duels, suspect timers, -10s, and other PvP activity.

Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Teros Hakomairos wrote:


Should not happen to a paying customer who don't accepted pvp at least not in high....concord should respond THE SAME SECOND with an 100k alpha on the attacker or an autodestruct of the attacker would help too or CCP should make unsanctioned attacks impossible(in high).....

So many possibilities to protext normal people from this PVP nonsense...


you sir are an idiot


No...simply no......

I'm just........totally right.....


No, you're really not, and you're displaying a fantastic level of ignorance here.

Eve is a PvP focused game. If you undock a ship anywhere in Eve you consent to the possibility that another player will shoot you.

Don't like it? Don't undock.
Teros Hakomairos
Doomheim
#32 - 2017-04-24 20:14:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Teros Hakomairos
Nothing will collapse...all will regulate itself after a short period of time......

Don't use threatening gestures just because you don't want this change......

This tactic is too transparent.....
Carnivorous Swarm
Doomheim
#33 - 2017-04-24 20:40:50 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Should not happen to a paying customer who don't accepted pvp at least not in high


Looks like you paid for the wrong game, bub.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#34 - 2017-04-24 20:45:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
(Yawn) What, this again?

CCP says somewhere that ~80% of players live, work, and play in Highsec.

They do so under the current rules governing non-consensual player conflict.

If non-consensual PvP were to be removed, what would change?

You're right; there'd be an immediate QoL uptick for those of the 80% who are averse to conflict.

So... CCP is expected to unbalance the whole game in exchange for a few smug smiles from the carebears?

I don't think so.

I mean is that 20% more important than the 80%? Sounds like minority tyranny to me.

Down with tyranny, make High Sec Great Again! \o/

CONCORD, invade Low Sec and Nul Sec!

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2017-04-24 20:47:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Nothing will collapse...all will regulate itself after a short period of time......

Don't use threatening gestures just because you don't want this change......

This tactic is too transparent.....
Supply and demand, a risk free hisec would create an overabundance of supply, and very little demand.

Think before you post, and at least give the illusion that you know how an economy works instead of just looking like a fool.

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#36 - 2017-04-25 00:04:47 UTC
It used to be people payed to complain about profits in highsec and plex. Now it's free to play and the complaint still exists, no handouts unless you're lucky, and they certainly wont be from CCP.

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Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2017-04-25 00:36:35 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Fifty Three wrote:
Hi. I have a few questions.

1. How long does Concord take to come rescue someone under attack in High Sector?

2. Does response time depend on how big the High sector system is and/or far away the hostile action is taking place from Concord ships?

3. Can a tanked Covetor,Hulk, the weakest of the barges/Exumers survive long enough until Concord arrives usually, without even having offensive capability, like scout drones?

Awe somebody got ganked


Should not happen to a paying customer who don't accepted pvp at least not in high....concord should respond THE SAME SECOND with an 100k alpha on the attacker or an autodestruct of the attacker would help too or CCP should make unsanctioned attacks impossible(in high).....

So many possibilities to protext normal people from this PVP nonsense...

Play on Singularity. Nonconsensual PvP is restricted there.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Brigadine Ferathine
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Against ALL Authorities.
#38 - 2017-04-25 00:44:54 UTC
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Fifty Three wrote:
Hi. I have a few questions.

1. How long does Concord take to come rescue someone under attack in High Sector?

2. Does response time depend on how big the High sector system is and/or far away the hostile action is taking place from Concord ships?

3. Can a tanked Covetor,Hulk, the weakest of the barges/Exumers survive long enough until Concord arrives usually, without even having offensive capability, like scout drones?

Awe somebody got ganked


Should not happen to a paying customer who don't accepted pvp at least not in high....concord should respond THE SAME SECOND with an 100k alpha on the attacker or an autodestruct of the attacker would help too or CCP should make unsanctioned attacks impossible(in high).....

So many possibilities to protext normal people from this PVP nonsense...

Play on Singularity. Nonconsensual PvP is restricted there.

I never have understood that btw...
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#39 - 2017-04-25 01:05:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
If you really want a comprehensive look at all things ganking, you might check out minerbumping.com. It's from CODE. (I'm not affiliated) and has copious tools, notes, and tactics that detail everything I can think of when it comes to ganking. They have calculators for how many ships t takes to gank another, and can adjust for sec status and pod skills. It's mind blowing to me more people don't use it; if not to gank, certainly to make yourself more survivable. They put it all out there for the public to see and use! I would think it would be a must-read for any capsuleer... but I think some players just dislike ganking so much they never think to check out what the other side is doing. If you know what they know, you can make yourself virtually immune from ganking. Sadly, so few players bother that gankers will never be at a loss for targets.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#40 - 2017-04-25 01:34:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
ERM.....

How could someone come to the conclusion that you have to remove PVE content from a PVE only zone?

I don't get this sry....sounds...silly :-)

Of course you don't get it. You're a Carebear that wants everything for nothing.

If you have no risk, there is no reward.

You want reward, then accept risk and stop being a Carebear whiner.

On the flipside, how could someone come to the conclusion that highsec is a 'PVE only zone'? Oh that's right. Carebear.

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