Warfare & Tactics

Put some apps out last week to a few null corps. Nothing big or prestigious because I have very little pvp experience and mostly want to learn the ropes. Many of the recruiters who got back to me were less than welcoming. Apparently caldari specialized characters are viewed with disdain among the null population. That suprised me a bit, considering the fact all I hear about nowadays is drakes, but I have been flying caldari since 2008 so the stigma wasn't too shocking.

Anyhow, I would prefer not to cross train in my immediate future. I know that fleet doctrines are important to nullsec fleets, but I dearly love my caldari ships and I had hoped since the hybrid buff and introduction of the naga that I would be able to finally get into some nullsec pvp without training minimatar or amarr as the usual song and dance went.

So are there corps out there more accepting of the caldari players among us? If not, what cross train would make the most sense just to make myself more marketable to those corps in the coming months? If all else fails i'll simply sell off my original character and try to buy something more pvp minded, much as that thought sickens me, it's better than feeling trapped by the years of training I put into being a good caldari pilot.

Thanks for the help people. Long time carebear looking to break the habit.

I am no pvp person, but am a little surprised at what you say. Perhaps they stigmatising you with "caldari ships = shields = care bear = we don't want" logic. Mebbe it's your care bear history (my assumption) that closes the doors rather than your 3 - 4 years Caldari expertise.

If you do retrain, say to min star, it is not too much hassle to get to decent T2 cruisers, T3s, and battle cruisers ... Especially with your missile skills and (again a guess) drone skills.

Good luck.

pretty much if you can fly a BC you can join most pvp corps.

I believe TEST has a drake doctrine? So they'll recruit you.

Tons of nullsec corps will recruit you . You just need to keep knocking on doors and don't touch on the carebear history.

And sorry to sound so cynical, but most good nullsec corps aren't going to spend time holding your hands. I don't care what recruiters say. I used to be a recruiter so trust me, I know all the sales pitches. People are pretty harsh and critical of noobs on comms and you better have one real thick skin. There are some 'starter' nullsec corps who make it a mission to train bears with the expectation that you'll eventually leave and go elsewhere. OUCH is a nullsec training corp in NPC space.

And may I also take the time to debunk what your beliefs are of nullsec pvp? Unless you get real lucky, do your due diligence, and show tremendous motivation to learn you're not going to learn alot of sound pvp fundamentals in nullsec warfare. And quite frankly, anyone with tremendous motivation to learn can do it on their own without having to rely on a corp of any kind.

In FW, lowsec piracy, and WH pvp, you are exposed to small gang on a daily basis. In FW and lowsec piracy, there are T1 cheap thrill roams, T2 gangs, and occasional hotdrops. In WH pvp, it's more T2 gangs.

Not to mention, in small gangs, you are easily able to weed out the weak links because teamwork is so much more vital. In doing so, everyone is held more accountable for their actions and consequently, their mistakes.

In nullsec pvp, it's blob warfare. Point, click, and shoot. Rinse, wash, and repeat. When a CTA is declared, no one is going to take time to teach you how to fight. No one.

Sorry to rain on anyone's parade. Just had a conversation with a corpmate who was dreaming of nullsec pvp again. I challenged every single of his believes until he actually couldn't figure out why he wanted nullsec pvp. He was just being a lemming and buying into the hype without really thinking critically of the issue at hand. But such is the case with most people.

Good luck!

XIX/XWX fleets use Scorpions and drakes, flycatchers, interceptors.
And this in only for fleet ops. For stuff like home defence you don't need standard ship/fit.

You must've never ran into us :P Ill shoot you an evemail. But we use Caldari to an extent. Depends on what we're after.

Gizznit may be biased, and shameless, but I am not. Those Agony courses are great, and a helluva lot of fun.

Others have prolly also mentioned RvB (Red versus Blue) as another tool to get PvP experience without diving into piwacy or nullsec to start with ... also very good.

We'd probably take you. We're 0.0 but don't fight for sov.

I got a caldari toon with round 20mil skill points into a null corp fairly easily. Just check the recruitment thread. I have since found that drakes are used more than most other ships. The corp I am with, even the most hardy mini pilots spend more time in nano drakes than their beloved cane's. I did train up to fly a geddon with meta 4 mega pulses since joining, but that is mostly for structure/POS bashing.