EVE New Citizens Q&A

DeMichael Crimson's Faction standing repair plan might guide you.


Parts of it can only be done once. Others repeatedly.

Sorry, forum ate most of my post. So just the short message above. Read through it thoroughly, before starting out.

It's quite easy, though a bit tedious. Here are the measures:

- train the relevant skills modifying standing to IV or V
- decline missions against the four empire factions
- never let any modified faction standing go below -5
- alternate missions from opposing factions, you gain more standing from storylines than you lose
- run the epic arcs every three months, round robin, always the faction with lowest standing first

Doing this you can get and keep good standing with all empire factions.

However there are only small benefits of good standing left, namely agent access and a bit lower broker fees in NPC stations.

Congratulations for picking the equivalent of the "train all skills" plan. Are you sure you want to do this?

Have you considered that you can build +10 standings with just a couple NPC corps (Caldari Navy, Gallente Federation, and the individual R&D corps that you're interested in), by doing regular missions (and refusing any storyline mission, or any mission that sends you against non-pirates), and you can achieve your goals in a fraction of the time?

The empires like/hate each other; doing (storyline) missions for one empire will lower your standings with their two enemies. The NPC corporations don't care about each other; doing missions for Caldari Navy will not affect any standings with any other Navy or NPC corp.

Instead of raising ALL your standings, for some nebulous "future purposes", why not increase the few corporation standings that matter (Jita, Dodixie, Sisters of EVE, and the specific R&D corps that you want), so you can start whatever "purposes" you had in mind in a couple weeks instead of a year from now.

And, by the way, learn this lesson with the skills, too. Don't go for the "train all skills" plan. The skills are all there, but you're expected to stop yourself at the bare minimum that you need for accomplishing whatever task you have in mind right now.

It is extremely difficult to get high faction standing (e.g. 5 or 6) with two opposing factions. It is almost impossible to achieve standings that high with all the Empire factions simultaneously. Judge early in your career whether or not you want to stay friendly with all empire factions. It is not difficult to keep positive standings (all above zero) with all the Empire factions simultaneously, even if running only normal missions. Just run missions for a faction when it approaches or dips below zero, and decline all missions which require you to kill an Empire faction's ships. Only the L4 epic arcs can be used to gain factions standings without losing other standings as a side effect.

Nope, I’m not interested in having above 6 faction standings with all factions. It’s unreal and no sense to have.

Based on that UNIWIKI faction standing guide it’s obvious that only storyline, the Sisters of Eve epic arc and the L4 epic arcs can be repeated multiple times. To benefit from grinding those missions obviously, it’s very important to have Social and Connections to level IV or V. To perform storyline missions for opposite faction – the level IV or V Diplomacy is also required. I’m developing those skills now btw. Sadly, the Sisters and L4 Arc can be repeated once per 3 months (90 days). The L4 arcs requires a well-developed battleship also. So, the only daily faction standing grinding mode are storyline missions. And it’s possible to perform 2 storyline missions per month for one faction and 2 storyline missions per month for another by doing totally 64 normal missions.

My Plan
1. Avoid any circle, career, Data and COSMOS missions at any cost if your standing isn’t below -5. They require too much time, they have horrible rewards (I got 1 Metal scrap and 10000 ISK from one Data Center mission) and can cost extremely expensive (I paid 2.4M ISK for 3 Bronze Tags). They should work like the plan B if your standing is below -5.
2. Choose which standings you need. It’s possible to keep only 2 opposite factions standing at level between 5 and 6. So, it’s very important for Minmatar and Gallente players to be at high standings (above 5) with Caldari and positive standings with Ammar. The Caldari state has the best R&D agents at Lai Dai corporation and many at Ishukone and Kaalakiota. What is the most important the Jita is there! Having 6.67 faction or corporation standings – Tax-free refining. Having positive Ammar reputation its ok considering the amount of systems owned by them. For Caldari is better to have good reputation with Minmatar and for Ammar – with Gallente, due to lesser reputation lost doing storyline missions. So, the Gallente federaion has the worst position in this plan 😊. Ammar R&D agents are just horrible.
3. Develop Social, Connections and Diplomacy skills to level IV or V. There is no sense to serialize storyline missions without these skills (thanks they aren’t hard to learn).
4. Perform normal and storyline missions (mining, distribution or security) at specified R&D corporations and others with good LP rewards.
5. A method to serialize storyline missions: 2 for own faction and 2 for opposite with the lowest standings (the Ammar for Minmatar players). So, increasing Caldari opposite reputation forces us to perform operations in Ammar space. Doing storyline missions for Caldari only, I think, will push down our Ammar standing too far.
6. Once per 3 months just pump points from Sisters mission to Caldari and L4 arc to Minmatar (in this example).

This plan can push both Minmatar and Caldari above 5 standing points with some low positive Ammar and Gallente standings (I just don’t know how the Caldari standings will influence on Gallente reputation). This plan also lets you keep your standings after doing some PVP in low-sec even. Theoretically it can restore your balanced standings after losing huge reputation points due to some circumstances.

I think I’m right here. If somebody did something like this before, please let me know. I’m not sure how much maximum standings it’s possible to farm by serializing storyline mission for opposite factions with level IV or V of respective social skills ( Chainsaw Plankton noticed it can be around +5 standings, which is good).

That information is in-game.

Show info on any station or agent. At the top of the info window you'll get an image for the logo of the station / face of the agent, and right next to it a smaller image for the logo of their corp. Click that, and you'll open a show info window for the NPC corp that they belong to. Again at the top, you get a logo for the corp, and a smaller logo for their empire. Click that.

The info window for the empire (Amarr Empire for example) will have a tab for Standings. You should see something like:

Amarr Empire - Caldari State 8.0
Caldari State - Amarr Empire 8.0

Amarr Empire - Gallente Federation -5.0
Gallente Federation - Amarr Empire -5.0

That's how much they like or hate each other. For every 1% of Amarr Empire standings, you also gain 0.8% Caldari and you lose -0.5% Gallente (and whatever the Minmatar percentage is). So you can look at the stats for each empire, and calculate the points.

However, keep in mind that the percentage is calculated based on where you are vs. the limits of +10 and -10. So let's say you have +4.50 standings with Amarr. 1% gain is 1% of (10 - 4.5) = 1% of 5.5 = 0.055 actual points. This is why it's hard to get above 6 or so; your 1% gains are fewer and fewer points as you approach +10, and your 1% losses are bigger and bigger as you get further away from -10.

at the time I am to drunk to read all of what op had to say.
my question is why would you want to fly in hisec with your main? unless you in a hisex merc corp that is.....

overall your plan seems a bit complicated and mixes corp and faction standings. Faction standing is mainly good for brokers fees and agent selection. need corp for R&D and I'm pretty sure reprocessing.

crossing between caldari or amarr and SoE seems to be the best way to get high standings all around for the least amount of work. SoE gives big gallente and small minmatar boosts, and small caldari/amarr penalties. Running for whoever is lowest seems to be the usual strategy.

Looks like R&D agents require at least +3 corp standings after that you can use your +5 faction or corp standings to access them. R&D agents aren't all that great either, I just cashed out 200k RP and was rather disappointed in the result. Most datacores come from FW these days.

from in game: "Your effective personal standings must be 3.0 or higher toward this agent's corporation in order to use this agent, as well as an effective personal standing of 5 or higher toward this agent, its faction, or its corporation in order to use this agent's services."

I usually maintain my standings in the 7-8 range, as just a few combat story lines will take me from 7 to 8. I used to have 9+ standing but between all my declines and fixing other standings it is quite a bit lower now. The 7-8 range buys me a lot of declines, and honestly half the time I just skip the story lines (aka forget to do them). When I do run them I typically wait till I have 3-4 to do and go run all of them in one session, and then take a ceptor around to do all the mats for wars. I decline any courier storyline as soon as I get it so the agent can offer me something else. And my negative derived standings are at or below max but above shoot on sight, so I don't really care much there. I could go on an SoE binge and fix that but I see no reason to need gal/min standings (plus my alt has them so)

Ugh, acronym attack, and not even related to EVE, in the Newbies forum.

Sir, I just can’t accommodate to the EVE time lines. It scary me when you say: “it’s easy, just don’t kill opposite drones, defense towers and in few years, you’ll get enough high standings.”

BTW how to get access to those L4 arcs for different factions? There are some restrictions? How to find them respectively?



Maybe my plan can be a bit complicated, but it’s relatively very fast method to get over +5 standings with own faction in few weeks due to what I already checked. We don’t need those arc missions even. The arc missions are good to push individual faction standings above +7 one by one as I understood from this thread. It’s enough to stack +3 of base standings and Level IV Connections will push it above +5.

Yes, you are right, the EVE business get huge nerfs all around. The warefare datacore farming also has relatively low income. Also, I’m just not ready to do only warefare and collide around “beacon” for years. With L4 mission you can make more ISK/hour through rewards, looting, salvaging and LP. What about exploration, I’m doing it during the last 3 weeks in LOW-SEC, NULL-SEC and WH and I’ll say it’s not so profitable as people talking about it on forums and on youtube videos. There are presented the rarest and the best possible cases.

The SoE missions are good options for it. Well known. Just check the Lanngisi dead end system in Metropolis->Ani – one SoE station with min 60 players online. The hangar door just requires a traffic light for incoming and outgoing Machariels, Rattlesnakes and Tengus. As for me the SoE LP rewards are just too bad, excluding Astero and Straites blueprints.