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Amarr Victor! CCP Please Stop.

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Victoria Oswald
Foster Industries LLC.
#21 - 2017-04-15 17:46:21 UTC
I am unable to state my own opinion here, since I am a new player in the EVE universe. However this got me:

Xzanos wrote:

On the other hand you have players who play the game more for its immersion factor and RP of joining a corporation/ fighting for ideals.


I was looking for a corp that supports these factors for months. Since I read the first book and decided to play eve I was all about some RP/Story related stuff, but all I found was people cross-using ships and randomly shooting each other, buying expensive goods, create fits for hours and die within minutes again.

So are you just lying to me, or did I just have bad luck?
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
#22 - 2017-04-15 18:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Rovinia
I think Amarr is with it's religious Cults, the Fanatics and intern struggles between the Royal familys lorewise the most interresting of all the empires.

Their "medieval" way of thinking and the unique style of their Ships (For example the goldplates as symbol for the imperial might) is simply the most interresting if you are a storywriter or like roleplay. The other empires are a bit dull in comparison. Playing a fanatic zealot makes just more fun then the stingy Caldari Accountant or the Gallentean Democrat. They also make good villains.

And if you run out of arguments in a discussion, you just scream "heretic! traitor! hedon! burn him!" till the other shuts up. You know, pretty much like today's politics works Blink
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#23 - 2017-04-15 20:15:34 UTC
Rovinia wrote:
I think Amarr is with it's religious Cults, the Fanatics and intern struggles between the Royal familys lorewise the most interresting of all the empires.

Their "medieval" way of thinking and the unique style of their Ships (For example the goldplates as symbol for the imperial might) is simply the most interresting if you are a storywriter or like roleplay. The other empires are a bit dull in comparison. Playing a fanatic zealot makes just more fun then the stingy Caldari Accountant or the Gallentean Democrat. They also make good villains.



The other empires are less ostentatious to be sure, but I find both the Caldari and Minmatar interesting in their own ways. As for the Gallente, their hedonism is widely remarked on. Big smile

Lothros Andastar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2017-04-15 20:43:38 UTC
There are more Amarr than there are Minmatar, Gallente and Caldari combined. Probably Jove too if the rumours of them all dying are to be believed.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2017-04-15 20:47:16 UTC
Victoria Oswald wrote:
I am unable to state my own opinion here, since I am a new player in the EVE universe. However this got me:

Xzanos wrote:

On the other hand you have players who play the game more for its immersion factor and RP of joining a corporation/ fighting for ideals.


I was looking for a corp that supports these factors for months. Since I read the first book and decided to play eve I was all about some RP/Story related stuff, but all I found was people cross-using ships and randomly shooting each other, buying expensive goods, create fits for hours and die within minutes again.

So are you just lying to me, or did I just have bad luck?

There is subforum "Interstellar Summit" (click here) where people discussing lore and events very heavily. You could look there and try to contact some of those?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Alaric Faelen
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2017-04-15 23:34:22 UTC
Well I only have 6 years as opposed to 13, but I haven't seen much in the way of ship superiority that isn't just FOTM. The NaPoc replaced the Megathron before they were all replaced with Dominix fleets at one point. How long ago was it that Drakes ruled the skies?

There is serious powercreep in Eve right now, and that really favors the Pirate or Navy hulls over even the glut of T2's in the game.

As for lore- the Amarr have the most obvious and relate-able one. It's easy to RP as a caricature of how most people actually are.

There was a live event based around the Caldari-Gallente conflict (it didn't go over very well).

Lately it's been Amarr, but hey- I am all for CCP actually closing out a story line for once. Way too much of Eve's content feels half done. CCP hauls out a piece of lore to explain some new feature, but then promptly abandons it in the next release. Epic Arcs, COSMOS missions, even Incursions feel like content that was meant for iteration, but never received it.

Next big new feature maybe they will use another race.
Xzanos
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2017-04-16 06:36:35 UTC
Alaric Faelen wrote:
Well I only have 6 years as opposed to 13, but I haven't seen much in the way of ship superiority that isn't
Lately it's been Amarr, but hey- I am all for CCP actually closing out a story line for once. Way too much of Eve's content feels half done. CCP hauls out a piece of lore to explain some new feature, but then promptly abandons it in the next release. Epic Arcs, COSMOS missions, even Incursions feel like content that was meant for iteration, but never received it.

Next big new feature maybe they will use another race.

I agree with the first part, but gods please no not another race...

*activates thermal hardeners for incoming flame

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2017-04-16 06:44:24 UTC
Amarr victor. Deal with it Caldari Scum.

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Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#29 - 2017-04-16 11:37:09 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Amarr have the least amount of skills for alphas. Something like 8-9 overall levels less than minmatar or the others.
If anything they need to toss some more levels toward amarr and let them get another capacitor recharge level, advanced weapon upgrades or armor layering.
No reason the races should have different level totals once fully trained in alpha skills.
Amarr are the blessed superior race so we should have great skills, the best skills, so many skills we get sick of training. The rust weasels deserve to wallow in skill poverty and filth.


I'm always wondering that why alphas of every race can train electronic warfare and weapon disrupting to III (while gallente alphas can only train sensor linking I and minmatar target painting I)? Shouldn't it be like Amarr weapon disrupting III, Caldari electronic warfare III, Gallente sensor linking III and Minmatar target painting III?
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#30 - 2017-04-17 16:08:06 UTC
We Amarricans will always dominate.

In God We Trust.

Unlike some forum bound paganistic maladroits

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~

Yarosara Ruil
#31 - 2017-04-17 16:40:55 UTC
Guristas ships are the superior ships, I don't know what the OP is talking about.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM Defensive Initiative
#32 - 2017-04-17 16:51:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Hir Miriel wrote:
We Amarricans will always dominate.

In God We Trust.

Unlike some forum bound paganistic maladroits

I would rather have a thin layer of rust holding everything together. Imagination can get you so far as how much duct tape is left. The rest is inevitable and doesnt need any prayers to happen.
Alessienne Ellecon
Doomheim
#33 - 2017-04-18 09:27:52 UTC
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
Rovinia wrote:
I think Amarr is with it's religious Cults, the Fanatics and intern struggles between the Royal familys lorewise the most interresting of all the empires.

Their "medieval" way of thinking and the unique style of their Ships (For example the goldplates as symbol for the imperial might) is simply the most interresting if you are a storywriter or like roleplay. The other empires are a bit dull in comparison. Playing a fanatic zealot makes just more fun then the stingy Caldari Accountant or the Gallentean Democrat. They also make good villains.



The other empires are less ostentatious to be sure, but I find both the Caldari and Minmatar interesting in their own ways. As for the Gallente, their hedonism is widely remarked on. Big smile



We're damn proud of our hedonism, thank you very much. The Amarr have fascinating lore, to be sure, but belonging to a race of sex-crazed, alcoholic party animals is more fun. Plus we don't have to put up with jokes about our ships.

Now where did I put my camo print c-string...?

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If EVE is a PvP game, then Anti-Ganking is emergent gameplay.

Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#34 - 2017-04-18 10:08:11 UTC
Train all races to BS to V, fly all the things.
This will allow you to either ignore the lore or see how nearly all the RP in EvE is a bad mess of generalizations acted out by nerds who try for gravitas but achieve lugubrious tedium by talking as if the sticks up their asses have sticks up their asses.

Saying all (nationality) are (personality trait) is dumb, but when you apply that to the bajillions of people living on thousands of planets you're just being damn lazy.



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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM Defensive Initiative
#35 - 2017-04-18 11:12:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Game has to be different than real life on some level, but also be believable enough to have sense, in this case empires had a long time when they were building their cultures in isolation, so it isnt really generalization when its cultural thing and people are really different. Then the cultures clash. Differences clash. Mindsets clash. This is why we have racism, slaves, wars and pirates in EVE. Too much tensions.
Netan MalDoran
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2017-04-18 15:27:33 UTC
#CALDARIMASTERRACE :P

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Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni
#37 - 2017-04-18 16:55:03 UTC
pls friends dont forget that friendship is best ship
Xzanos
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2017-04-18 22:00:06 UTC
Tanuki Kittybeta wrote:
pls friends dont forget that friendship is best ship

Make sure they are flying Amarr/Gallente or they are bads...

*activates thermal hardeners for incoming flame

Xzanos
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2017-04-18 22:03:35 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Train all races to BS to V, fly all the things.

You mean fly what hard counters your opponent instead of having a more all around balanced game?

*activates thermal hardeners for incoming flame

Xzanos
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2017-04-18 22:04:52 UTC
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Guristas ships are the superior ships, I don't know what the OP is talking about.

Trying not to bring pirate faction ships into the mix because there is even more of a balance issue there

*activates thermal hardeners for incoming flame

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