Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Might be cool to look into a type of afterburner that require about the same to fit as the afterburner but the speed is half that of it.

However this one can be active/activated while running cloak.

The higher meta on the module, the higher ship velocity and a positive change on the targeting systems when decloaking.

Sensor Recalibration Time - which normally draws a line on how long before you can lock-on a target after decloaking. The higher the meta on this module, the higher % cuts this effect.

Scan Resolution bonus - which normally decreases the lock-on speed by a % after the sensor recalibration time. Will now have its negative effect decreased by a % depending on the meta level of the micro-afterburner.

Maximum Velocity Modifier - which normally is a negative bonus on each cloaking device(except Cov-ops) is reduced by a % to be less negative, the more the higher meta of the micro-afterburner. However no effect on the Cov-ops cloaking device, since a % reduction of a negative modifier can't go above 100%. (It's a bonus reduction of the already negative effect, not a bonus to ship velocity!)


Hopefully this draft is something CCP could play with.

Well the exact figures would be up for CCP to balance. But I think this change could make non-stealthy ships more attractive for cloaking devices. Maybe make it so that the recalibration stuff doesn't affect ships with already set cloaking bonus and the cov-ops cloak(just the velocity).

I think it's at least worth playing with as of course you'd have to replace something you'd need in the midslots with it.

This. This idea is essentially "make the drawbacks of cloaks no longer matter", which can not happen.

Jeez. NOT ALL. maye at officer meta, the drawback is 50% of the exsisting cloak attributes.!?

What drawbacks are there for covops ships, in your opinion? Several of them are amongst the best value for money vessels in the game.

The whines from the carebears would be deafening. They already cry like babies when you can't activate a module on your cloaked ship.

But yes, mitigating the draw backs to cloaks is not a good idea.

Non-cloaky ships aren't supposed to be super attractive options to fit a cloaking device on, that's why the ships that *do* get to fit a cloak tend to pay dearly for it in tank, gank, price, and a lack of other bonuses.

A somewhat disruptive Idea, a lot of balance work would need to be done, as I can see quite a few areas it could cause issues. None of them are impossible to deal with, but still, quite involved.

The question is more why.

Is there a significant problem caused by the current mechanic?

Is there a significant improvement in game play going to be achieved by it?

Are there technical reasons why it would make the game more maintainable by the devs, or would it make it more complicated even if possible?

Does it "step on the toes" of covert ops ships and blops, making them more or less desireable?

Does anyone actually want it?

Would it be FUN

I cannot think of answers to these questions that would justify the development and balancing efforts. I may just lack imagination.

I am open to having my mind changed if these questions have a good answer.

What kills this is that there are several uses for something like this that are just massively OP. The main drawback to fitting a cloak on a non-bonused ship is speed reduction, and this if not removes then significantly mitigates that drawback.

It also breaks the rule about module activation while cloaked, which is another point against it.

Seriously, just look up the WMD+cloak trick for an example of why this would be super OP, or look at how easy it would be to completely safely move around grid, make bookmarks, or setup warp-ins if a Cov-Ops could fit an AB while cloaked.

This has nothing to do with majority rule, this has to do with a lot of people able to look at something and see the wider gameplay implications, and no one including yourself having a decent argument against those issues.