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Trinova-Star fraction hostilities

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Lavebio
LaveCorp
#1 - 2011-09-16 21:52:37 UTC
This message was posted on behalf of Trinova and written by Phjil, the CEO of Unleashed' Fury.

I, Phjil, hereby apologise for the wrongful agression some of us, including myself, have shown towards the people of Star Fraction in the general loop area. We did not intend to provoke or antagonise anyone.

Trinova has changed its engagement policy concerning SF and will no longer attack its members once the war is over.

We would also like to thank SF for this opportunity to resolve things peacefully.

Svenjabi Xiang
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#2 - 2011-09-16 21:58:20 UTC
On behalf of The Star Fraction, I acknowledge this apology and wish the pilots of Trinova well in their future endeavors within the low-sec area of Placid known as the Loops.

Star Fraction remains a committed Freespacer organization that vigorously asserts the rights of our pilots to fly wherever they choose in New Eden and we encourage all capsuleers to take on these rights and refuse to bow down to territorial authority and imperialist roadblocks!
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-09-16 22:23:08 UTC
Svenjabi Xiang wrote:
On behalf of The Star Fraction, I acknowledge this apology and wish the pilots of Trinova well in their future endeavors within the low-sec area of Placid known as the Loops.

Star Fraction remains a committed Freespacer organization that vigorously asserts the rights of our pilots to fly wherever they choose in New Eden and we encourage all capsuleers to take on these rights and refuse to bow down to territorial authority and imperialist roadblocks!

Why don't you come down to Delve, then? It's a Freeport.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#4 - 2011-09-16 22:29:05 UTC
Oh well, it was good while it lasted...

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Aesis Tori
Blades of Liberty
#5 - 2011-09-17 00:11:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Aesis Tori
Poor show.


Star Fraction dec a corp to milk out an apology on the IGS after hunting haulers and industrials in highsec.

You're just fueling their collective ego. Have fun being their lackeys in future.


As a side note, the Fraction has decided to declare war on Moira, a second time. This one will be going mutual.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-09-17 00:16:57 UTC
Aesis Tori wrote:
Poor show.


Star Fraction dec a corp to milk out an apology on the IGS after hunting haulers and industrials in highsec.

You're just fueling their collective ego. Have fun being their lackeys in future.


As a side note, the Fraction has decided to declare war on Moira, a second time. This one will be going mutual.

In future months this will be recalled by the Fraction Forum Warriors as Moira.'s imperialist blah blah blah.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Svenjabi Xiang
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#7 - 2011-09-17 16:37:22 UTC
Aesis Tori wrote:

As a side note, ... Moira


Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#8 - 2011-09-17 17:35:00 UTC
Clearly such a sidenote that you feel that you had to reinitiate hostilities again vis-a-vis CONCORD wardec. Mhmmmm.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-09-17 17:38:48 UTC
Breaking News—ineffectual blowhards declare war on Something-DOT.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Verone
Veto Corp
#10 - 2011-09-17 18:34:35 UTC
Aesis Tori wrote:
As a side note, the Fraction has decided to declare war on Moira, a second time. This one will be going mutual.


This is pretty funny, considering their objective the first time around was to wipe Moira off the map and they were spamming the IGS honking about victory and writing dribbling walls of text about how superior and victorious they were when they voluntarily brought their campaign to end after failing to do so.

Actions speak louder than words considering Moira are still here, and are still enough of a threat to them to be war declared by The Star Fraction a second time.

It looks like SF's leadership was full of **** about "Victory" first time around. Still, nothing new there really.

Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM

Kleoptoleme
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-09-18 09:58:50 UTC
Verone wrote:
Actions speak louder than words
...and yet we see you doing nothing...again, whilst The Star Fraction stands for what it believes in. You prove the saying correct, an empty vessels makes the most noise. Such a shame Sir, you could do so much more if you put your mind to it.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-09-18 16:18:52 UTC
The obvious solution to this little thing is for all parties to attack each other instead of posting on the IGS. Who wants to be first?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#13 - 2011-09-18 16:20:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
What is genuinely rather pitiful in this thread is the speed with which our oldnews forum-foes chose to intervene in a 3rd Party resolution that has nothing to do with them.

Still I will take the opportunity to wish Trinova the best in the future and tip my hat to their diplomatic staff for being open to honest negotiation and progressive resolution of our conflict.

Now to Verone, well dear oh lord.

Not content with lying about our war-aims in the previous successful campaign against Moira in Placid he sees fit to dribble pity-evoking inanities delivered with his trademark clueless sneer.

So to set the record straight: our previous conflict with Moira was designed to prevent that organization from interfering with Freespace operations across Placid. The conflict developed into a battle over two staging towers in Ostingele and Pelille one owned by Star Fraction and one owned by Moira. Verone at the time staked his reputation on defending Moira and seeing them to victory over the Fraction with the intended destruction of the Space and Freedom tower while defending the Moira HQ in Pelille.

Things didn’t go to plan for Verone as his organization was humiliated with the destruction of the protectorate Moira HQ and voluntary exile of remaining Moira personnel from the warzone combined with the shameful failure of a large Veto/Rote capital group to complete a successful attack against the Fraction tower in Ostingele. Hence we imagine, his rather bitter invective expressed ever since.

All of this is on record on the IGS archives along with many examples of the Veto CEO losing his composure and explosively decompressing his pint-sized ego for all to see.

Still, this has very little to do with him anymore and as for the current Moira redec as we told their diplomats at the time – their failure to agree formal surrender terms at the closing of the previous hostility meant we reserved the right to snap redec them any time we saw fit and recognized an opportunity to cause further harm to their organization.

The larger “war” was won with the destruction of the Moira HQ tower in Pelille. This is simply providing a further opportunity to sweep out the territorialist trash where opportunity presents.

If it does great. If it doesn't thats fine too. Moira are simply one of thousands of regressive nationalist roadblockers queued up in our gunsights and as freespace guerillas we utilize the sanctioned declaration tools to our benefits and the discomfiture of our foes always.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#14 - 2011-09-18 16:27:34 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
The obvious solution to this little thing is for all parties to attack each other instead of posting on the IGS. Who wants to be first?


For that the miniature-gurrista action figure would need to get into a starship and place himself at hazard. Hence I'm hardly holding my breath against that possibility. Still Lyris Nairn, perhaps in this the smaller conflicts of New Eden mirror the larger territorial stasis on the deep frontier? I hear many tales of lassitude and dullness even in the depths of 0.0.

What do you believe is the cause of this?

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-09-18 18:40:32 UTC
Miss Constantine;

I believe the cause of this reported dullness you mention is the inaccuracy of your sources. One need but look at any of the available resources for reporting such to see that large and small fleets clash on a daily basis just about everywhere out in nullsec. Just yesterday, I lead a group of twenty against seven and lost horrible; in that same day, there were at least five different fleet engagements during "prime hours" within my own alliance, and during the off-peak hours there were two others; one of those involved the destruction of several hostile super-capital vessels. Beyond the engagement of fleets, last night our Coalition forces liberated the station in M-2, and defended it against attempted recapture by its previous owners on two separate occasions; moreover, there were literally dozens of small, roaming gangs and one-off engagements across the area of space under our influence, as well as some "gate camps" and expeditions in foreign space. This represents a single day in a single Alliance, and I suspect that the total activity in nullsec represents much greater total activity; moreover, I believe that you and anyone else can confirm the veracity of these claims by seeking reports from objective sources.

What did you do yesterday?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#16 - 2011-09-18 18:51:58 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
I believe the cause of this reported dullness you mention is the inaccuracy of your sources. One need but look at any of the available resources for reporting such to see that large and small fleets clash on a daily basis just about everywhere out in nullsec. Just yesterday, I lead a group of twenty against seven and lost horrible; in that same day, there were at least five different fleet engagements during "prime hours" within my own alliance, and during the off-peak hours there were two others; one of those involved the destruction of several hostile super-capital vessels.


Whilst I will take your word for your own liberty to engage with this medium while running the super-intense activities your describe you will forgive me for not being overly impressed by seven fleet engagements for a 5000+ person plus alliance and far larger coalition.

Quote:
Beyond the engagement of fleets, last night our Coalition forces liberated the station in M-2, and defended it against attempted recapture by its previous owners on two separate occasions; moreover, there were literally dozens of small, roaming gangs and one-off engagements across the area of space under our influence, as well as some "gate camps" and expeditions in foreign space. This represents a single day in a single Alliance, and I suspect that the total activity in nullsec represents much greater total activity; moreover, I believe that you and anyone else can confirm the veracity of these claims by seeking reports from objective sources.


You do sound like quite the recruiting officer for your alliance Lyris Nairn. Perhaps you have found your calling and it does explain your interaction with threads on the summit certainly.

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What did you do yesterday?


Well you are reading it. We successfully concluded a war according to our freespace ideology.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-09-18 19:01:31 UTC
Jade Constantine;

I have neither the motivation nor the inclination to impress you; The Star Fraction is a non-entity from the perspective of our organisation, and your opinion of me and mine is irrelevant. If you wish to dispute that in space, then you are welcome to come engage us in combat or warfare; else, you are welcome to spout ineffectual words here on the IGS for the amusement and entertainment of our readers. As for the freespace ideals you espouse, I invite your underlings to join us in Freeport Delve. I make no offer of guarantee or pardon, free passage or protection, affiliation or association; merely, I make known to you that we are creating an anarchist's paradise in the Delve region, and you are just as welcome as any other entity—which is to say, we will shoot you on sight, and it is very likely that all the other "free captains" of the area will do the same. But there will be no rule of law nor imposition of fealty. Add to the chaos; make something good of it, if you are capable; or, as I suspect will be the case, continue to post empty words on the IGS while doing nothing to further your ideals in a measurable way. Whatever you choose, do me the favor of keeping your decision to yourself; I suspect that most of the IGS would be happy not to read another of your posts ever again.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Verone
Veto Corp
#18 - 2011-09-18 19:06:27 UTC
Kleoptoleme wrote:
Verone wrote:
Actions speak louder than words
...and yet we see you doing nothing...again, whilst The Star Fraction stands for what it believes in. You prove the saying correct, an empty vessels makes the most noise. Such a shame Sir, you could do so much more if you put your mind to it.


Oh, we're doing plenty. We just don't feel the need to broadcast every step we take with a fanfare and an IGS thread. It gets tiring for all parties involved after a while and we generally don't feel the need to say "HEY LOOK< LOOK AT US, WE'RE DOING STUFF!".

There's obviously something wrong if you have to justify your very existence.

Jade Constantine wrote:
...pointless rambling spanning several posts...


Ah Jade, sweetheart.

For someone who claims to be on the ball, you're really not. Honestly, you think you've seen me angry?

You can barely make me mildly vexed darling.

The only reason that I even bother posting in your ego-fluffing threads is to get a rise out of you and watch you squirm and attempt to shoot me down. You never disappoint with your walls of text, badly phrased put downs and attempts to justify yourself and your corporation.

And a retaliation I got. I had a good laugh at the mail I was forwarded from one of my members you're familiar with, of you frothing at the mouth and asking why she hasn't demanded that I leave your business alone. And you're saying I'm the one who's angry?

Truth of the fact is, I've always left the door open for us to resolve the issues you have with me and I've notified you of this on many an occasion. I've always said that if you were big and adult enough to offer an apology for the way you started to behave toward me years back rather than hiding behind your ego to conceal your mistakes, I'd offer the same courtesy in return and we could let bygones be bygones.

In the end, the ball has been in your court for years sweetie. We used to be good friends, and I could happily make it all go away if you had the backbone to admit you were wrong for once.

That time hasn't come, so I'll keep baiting... and you'll keep biting, or have one of your army of mouthpieces do it on your behalf due to the fact you can't control that egotistical streak in you that needs to try to have everyone regard your corporation with awe.

Stay safe darling, you'll come around eventually.

Ciao.

Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#19 - 2011-09-18 19:07:32 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Jade Constantine;

I have neither the motivation nor the inclination to impress you; The Star Fraction is a non-entity from the perspective of our organisation, and your opinion of me and mine is irrelevant.


And yet you demonstrate precisely the opposite every time you are drawn to the threads that involve us. A word of advise, if something is truly beneath your notice don't spent disproportionate effort attempting to persuade people that it is.

Just ignore it.

Its far more convincing.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#20 - 2011-09-18 19:09:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
It does seem to be
your very natural state
Face bright scarlet and florid

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

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