EVE General Discussion

Just came back to see if Eve had changed. I died a pointless death. No possible retaliation or warp out.
Nice to see it still has gate camping twats. The game is dying as a result of CCP not providing ways to counter people being dicks to others playing in the sandbox.

Is there a module to stop anyone from getting anything profitable from your wreck, yet? Nope.
That would mean PVP would be unfunded. Can't do that, CATER CATER CATER to PVP jerks.

Not one peep or drop of love to let people who don't really seek out violence to avoid it.
Oh it's 'carebear' right, to want to sneak around, build stuff and not get hammered at choke points.
Well if you think so, you must be right. Can't do that. CATER CATER CATER to unskilled PVP jerks getting their jollies off.

There's no tactics involved in combat. Match weapon types / to shield and tanking types and yadda yadda, optimize every build, but at the end of the day. You'd be a lot more careful about blowing up a Badger Mk II if it was hauling gases that would frag every ship within 70km. Because having more people, doing their role, should mean you should always win, every time! Tactics shouldn't ever be considered. Cater cater cater to unskilled PVP jerks, mount all the guns and fire ERTHING!.

The other thing I read about on the forums is this bullshit about autopilot. Auto pilot SHOULD be able to jump faster than a human being, closer than a human being can, and should be able to chain gate to gate without even a target lock possible. And the only reason why it can't is because CCP says it can't ----to cater to you guessed it. PVP JERKS and to waste time in their game.

But there's a consequence. Be a douche to new and returning players. New and returning players leave.
And it isn't just a CCP thing, it's a community thing. Leave people the **** alone. And if you have the skills and ships and skill to go mess with a gate camp, get in your ship and go do it. But what I suspect is, you don't have the means or don't feel it is necessary. So the barrier to exploration and fun is so high no one wants to leave the station and just die meaninglessly.

NO, but I will spend all of my isk putting a bounty on your head.
Someone go shoot him.

OMFG, now you just scared the livin' shyte out of me. I think i need to get away and join the Foreign Legion for shelter.
Bounty? Please feel free to do so. But not the usual 100.000 Isk, that's not a bounty that's a joke.

This is just so hilariously wrong in so many ways I can't resist correcting some of it...



First off, look into insta-warp fits. Sub 2-second align time in an Interceptor means you can escape almost any gate camp, almost. After all Eve is a game of planning, if someone camps and kills you then they planned better than you did.



It's called don't fit any modules?

No one makes money from actual PvP though. Module drops are not what fund PvP. If you want to avoid getting ganked there are plenty of tools at your disposal but nothing that's going to stop it from happening 100%.



If you want to avoid violence there are plenty of tools at your disposal, but none of those are going to be 100% effective. If you want to play a single-player space game there are quite a few of those out there. Why you would play an MMO only to 100% avoid other people I have no idea.

Eve is a PvP-centric game though. It pretty much says so on the tin before you open it. This game is not "safe", never has, and never will be.



Your lack of understanding of how the combat in this game works is likely one of the reasons you don't find it enjoyable. PvP has less to do with damage types and more to do with how that damage is applied and how you yourself mitigate damage, and it can get quite involved and detailed both in terms of fittings for specific roles and tasks and how you fly your ship during combat.

But yeah, pretty much everything you say or imply here about combat is hilariously wrong.

Oh, and if you could stuff a Badger full of gas that would blow up everything in a 70km radius that's probably what you would have died to on that gate, was someone shooting their own Badger alt from 100km and watching everything around it die in a fire.



Because that would be the game playing itself for you, not you playing the game. The only reason this game exists is because CCP says it does, the same as for every MMO. The Devs define the rules of the game world, we just play in it, and you seem to have some pretty fundamental issues with some pretty fundamental parts of this game.

Also, your basic assumption that lots of people leave because of this sort of behavior, is just wrong. CCP's own stats say that very few people leave because of the sort of thing you're complaining about here.

If you'd care to actually learn how to PvP, how the game's combat mechanics work, and how to be a better player feel free to ask here or shoot me a PM.

Otherwise, welcome back, bye, can I have your stuff?

You were killed flying an unfit ship solo through null? And you're saying there wasn't anything you could do about it? hmm...

Only thing thats Charlie Sheen "winning" here is the butthurt that you feel each and every day you are you.

Too bad the truth hurts so awfully though doesnt it.

I don't know what to say to you winning, you've not played the game long enough to understand any advice people might try to give you, for some reason you seem to think EVE would be a game where you can come in and win right off the bat, you realised this is not how it goes and stopped playing, but still you return in the hope that for some reason CCP might have changed the game to give players a bubble to live in where they can never be shot by real players.

you want to build and sell items that will be used to kill other ships and effect the balance of power in a given area but can't understand why someone should have the right to actually attack you because of that.
the best you'll get is NPC corps and high sec but even then there is stil a chance that somebody won't care about how much it will cost to have you killed.

maybe EVE just isn't for you, nothing wrong with that, i've played hundreds of games i didn't enjoy and quit but i've never returned to those games.

OK, let me see if I understand the original post. It was basically:

" I used to play Eve online, the game described by its own creators as the game all about shooting strangers in the face. I left some time back because I didn't like being shot in the face by strangers.

I spent time away and then came back. And right after I did a stranger shot me in the face! So I did one of the most Eve things ever and rage quit!"

Did I get it mostly right? I bet I can apply that life lesson to other things, when I was young I got soap in my mouth, it was terrible!! So I tried tasting some soap again and it is still terrible!

So based on the original poster's lesson I am going to not eat soap again!

I also won't try and pet large wild jungle cats, play fetch with packs of wolves or hug wild bears in the Alaskan forests. I will totally stop giving money to Nigerian Prince's relatives no matter how much money they say in an email I will get in return. I will also stop jumping of off tall things with parachutes made from bed sheets or wings made from cardboard boxes.

Who could ever have guessed things I found to not be something I liked would still be something I find I still don't like later. I should study that!

I'm coming for you Jacques. Already got my stone cold pro locator agent working on the job. Don't take it personal, I just need the isk. How much isk is it, anyway?

Well, Khergit, right now it's ZERO Iskies.

Edit: Khergit, bring out the Titan, now its 100.001 Isk.